Swear to God, Solim really didn't expect things to be like this. Originally, he thought that in addition to talking about the relationship between father and son, he would find out about his mother back then, but Solim never expected that after his cheap old man met and finished talking about the events of the year, the topic changed and he began to criticize the thirteen families that now dominate the entire wizarding world...... Well, it's the wizarding world of Europe.

Solim also doesn't like the Selwyns, and hates some of the ways of these wizarding families at the apex. But resisting, or even overthrowing them, Solim never thought about it, because it was simply unrealistic.

Solim didn't dare to say how much he knew about the Council of Elders, how much he knew about the ruling group of the Thirteen Families, but from what he knew so far, let alone a single individual, even an opponent of the size of the Magical Congress of the United States could not defeat a behemoth like the Elders.

But Ogle dared to think, not only that, but judging by his tone, he had already done something. Solim didn't want to go crazy with him, yes, Solim didn't like the Selwyns either, and he hated their control over him, but as a member of Selwyn, how much benefit did Solim get from his surname?

Speaking of which, the troubles Solim is getting into now are inseparable from Ogle. Kadille. Why did Richie always trouble Solim in Scullery? Wasn't it because Ogle had humiliated the Richie family and humiliated his father?

Although it is a bit consequential, it is undeniable that the that Ogle did back then did have an impact on Solim - of course, if it wasn't for those "things", it is still two to say whether Solim would have come to this world.

"Grandpa, he knows these ...... of yours Thoughts?" asked Solim in as tactful a tone as possible.

Not only did he know, but the old men in the family also knew. Ogle smiled and said something that Solim didn't expect at all.

"It's just that they think I can't do it, that I'm going to give up on this naïve idea when I'm frustrated, and honestly go back to the path they've set out — besides, it's not like people like me haven't been out there, and they think I'm going to fail in the end. "

The old men of Selwyn knew about Ogle's thoughts, but instead of taking action, they watched Ogle jump, and when he had jumped enough and found that shaking the Presbyterian Church was a thing that could not be done, they thought that Ogle would give up these unrealistic ideas and honestly return to the track that a Selwyn member should be.

Solim felt that the old men were magnanimous enough, that Ogle's behavior was a complete betrayal of the wizard, and that it was merciful to just send them to a place where the birds didn't.

"You can't do that kind of thing. Solim said, "Although my knowledge of the Council of Elders and the Thirteen Families is only scratching the surface, I also know that it is impossible to overthrow them. "

"Who said that?" Ogle did not have any unpleasantness.

"It's a fact, you said that there were people who did similar actions before, what happened to them?"

"They failed because they were going in the wrong direction. Ogle gave a smile that was sure of everything, "They have set themselves an unrealistic goal. They want to dismantle the Presbyterian Church, which of course will not succeed. "

"But—"

"I've never said I'm going to wipe out the Council of Elders and the Thirteen Families. "The old families have long been unable to find a suitable direction and have no new interests, so they can only fight over these old interests – like the field of the Riem cow in your hand." "

"So what you want to do is not overthrow the rule of the Presbyterian Church, but find a new piece of cake?" Solim's blood pressure dropped slightly.

"If you want to change the inherent environment of a closed society, you must have new interests. When ordinary people discover a new world, their society immediately becomes vibrant - and we wizards need to discover our 'new world' as well. "

Ogle pointed to the floor and said, "The 'New World' of our wizards has always been at our feet, but few people are aware of it. Even if some people realize it, they go in the wrong direction – like Grindelwald, they choose the most difficult way to achieve, and failure is inevitable. "

"What about you?"

"I, I will let the Council of Elders and the Thirteen Families seek change on their own, and I will put the facts in front of them, and the cake of profit in front of them...... The temptation of profit is something they can't refuse—after seeing enough of it, they'll throw away the things that the pureblood wizards now cling to. "

Ogle was full of confidence at this time.

"As I told you before, I have a lab. Ogle smiled: "There are only two wizards there, and the rest are ordinary people, they are now studying the magic materials I provided to them, and I gave them a task - to systematically summarize and summarize magic in ordinary people's methods." When this work progresses to a certain extent, there will inevitably be some results, and those results are the bait I threw at the Council of Elders and the Thirteen Families. "

"At the same time, in this way, you will have a completely different way of using magic than the wizards in the past, and you will use this method to greatly strengthen your own strength - in this way, you will greatly reduce the gap with those old monsters. "

Solim understood it clearly, and he could see at a glance the collateral benefits of Ogle's approach.

"Am I right?"

"You are perceptive, my child. Ogle looked at Solim with a look of surprise and appreciation, "To be able to say such things proves that you know more about the world of ordinary people than I thought." Can you tell me about that? Where did you know about this, the girl from Hogwarts?"

Solim ignored the question and asked, "But you've done the same thing before, and those friends of yours have been disposed of, right?"

Ogle fell silent, his expression changing from surprise to gloom.

"Yes, you're right. So I didn't even let my father know about it—but I told you, my child, that I thought you could help me—or did I see it wrong?"

Speaking of which, Ogle's gaze at Solim was full of scrutiny.

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