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Chapter 636
Yang Reform and Sun Chengzong strolled for a while and asked a lot of questions, but they still haven't asked the main question they want to talk about. This question, given the current situation, I really don't know how to explain it to the world. I'm afraid no one can answer it. Thinking of what kind of beast this "capital" will be when it comes to the world.

The formation of capitalism and industrialization must be piled up with layers of bones.But now the Ming Dynasty is such a country that has shouted "benevolence, righteousness and morality" for 2000 years, which is louder, more realistic, and more deeply rooted in the hearts of the people than the slogan "human rights".Yang Reform knows that this capitalist or industrialization transformation has progressed to a certain extent, and I am afraid that this problem will become an acute problem.

On the one hand, the culture and traditions that have been handed down in society for 2000 years have the commanding heights of morality, the ideology of the society, and the values ​​of the society; Such a group of status is used to get rid of the fate of the year 2000. There is a huge difference between the two parties, and I am afraid that there will be a violent conflict in the future.

Of course, Yang Reform did not want to see the process of industrialization die prematurely. "Capital" would definitely come to the world, but he also did not want "capital" to run amok in the world, and he did not want to reproduce the process of capitalism and industrialization in the West in the Ming Dynasty.There are considerable differences in social ideology and values. It is absolutely impossible to completely copy the western process of capitalism and industrialization. The huge difference between the two may interrupt the process of industrialization.

This is a new problem before Yang Reform. It is a problem that has to be faced and cautious. It is also a problem that must be solved and must be guarded against at all times.

Yang Reform knows that he understands this issue, but does anyone else understand this in the Ming Dynasty?It's not that I don't have a countermeasure, is it feasible?

High and low...

lonely...

Looking at the huge Ming Dynasty, Yang Reform couldn't see anyone who could have an in-depth dialogue with him in this regard.For such a big matter, I can't find anyone to discuss it, and I can think of countermeasures and come up with ideas on my own. This is just imagining.There will definitely be problems in the future, and then I can only worry about it myself, while the people below are busy.That is quite bad. To deal with this problem, it is definitely not possible to rely on one's own efforts. There must be a group of people who understand this matter and are willing to assist him in dealing with this matter. I can't keep my eyes on it alone. A class of rentiers.

Yang Reform heaved a long sigh, and tried hard to find the clues from the complicated thoughts, hoping to explain this problem with accurate words.

"Master Sun must also know that I am supporting the industry and commerce now." Yang Reform was silent for a while, and finally asked questions. If you don't talk about these things, you will feel really unhappy. Hold back the injury.

"Return to Your Majesty, I know that scholars, farmers, commerce and industry are the foundation of the country and should be supported..." Sun Chengzong said.This view is not new. Many people have made such voices before. What the emperor is doing now undoubtedly shows what the emperor is doing. It is not surprising that Sun Chengzong has this view.

"Well, Master Sun continued..." Seeing Sun Chengzong's unfinished expression, Yang Reform continued to ask.

"...Only by emphasizing on agriculture can one have food to eat; only by emphasizing on industry and commerce can one have powerful tools; only by having various expenses can one have enough tax burdens and the world can be stable. It is impossible to only focus on a certain item..." Sun Chengzong Start a long series of explanations.

"Well, yes, we should pay attention to it, but, Master Sun, have you ever thought about the situation after the industry and commerce grow?" Yang Reform asked. According to Yang Reform's judgment, the current vision and thinking of the Ming Dynasty are still in the promotion stage. Agriculture and business are equally important, and after the growth of industry and commerce, things are still blank and belong to fields that no one has touched. It is this field that Yang Reform is troubled by. As the saying goes, half a step faster is a genius, and one step faster is a genius. Crazy, Yang Reform is thinking about things one step faster than others right now, so he is naturally looking for trouble. He is not a lunatic, which is already considered pretty good.

In fact, this is not one step faster than others. In fact, it should be said that it is infinitely closer to one step faster, or that one and a half steps cannot be added to one and a half steps... Nowadays, equal emphasis is placed on scholars, farmers, businessmen, especially the gradual growth of business and industry has gradually become a reality. , gradually became inevitable. In fact, it has come to the end of the vision and thinking of the people of the Ming Dynasty. Stepping on this "half step" and starting to think about the key point of the next "half step", and this point is now blank, this is what worries Yang Reform. Discuss the next "half step" person...

"...the growth of industry and commerce? This..., back to Your Majesty, this should be a good thing..." Sun Chengzong looked at the emperor suspiciously, and said a lot of benefits after the development of industry and commerce, such as sufficient tax revenue , ordinary people can afford more things, can accommodate more people to work and so on.

Yang Reform couldn't help nodding. It was indeed as he expected. Although Sun Chengzong's vision and thinking were farther and higher than ordinary people, in fact, he was only half a step ahead of ordinary people. What he saw and thought was still there. Advocating this step, now that this step has been taken and realized, the question of the next half-step is obviously not under consideration, or in other words, no systematic thinking has been done, and there is no systematic answer or conclusion.Of course, Yang Reform didn't expect Sun Chengzong to take one more step than others. If so, Sun Chengzong would no longer be a normal person, but a lunatic.

"However, there are pros and cons to everything. What Master Sun said is good, but have you considered the bad?" Yang Reform enlightened Sun Chengzong from the perspective of taking "many steps" more than others.

"The bad side?...Your Majesty also makes sense. If you talk about the bad side, then what I said earlier about the mines in the south can be regarded as a bad side. The local tyrants forced people who had no means of living to go into the mountains. Only half of them are able to work, which can be regarded as quite bad. If the industry and commerce grows in the future, these situations should be avoided. I see that these new businesses and factories opened by Your Majesty are undoubtedly doing well. Your Majesty is very concerned about these aspects. It seems that there are precautions..." At this point, Sun Chengzong was thoughtful, and Sun Chengzong's vision was indeed higher than that of ordinary people. When he heard the emperor say this, he immediately thought of a lot, and asked the emperor himself. things come.

"That's right, I have indeed made preparations in this regard. It is true to say that it is prevention. I have been thinking that if I really strengthen and expand the two industries of industry and commerce, and become an extremely existence, and be able to take charge of my own side, then it will be a big problem." For what kind of scene, Master Sun might as well make a limit deduction from the good and bad aspects." Yang Reform continued, this can be regarded as enlightening Sun Chengzong.

"...This... Limit deduction..." Sun Chengzong was obviously lost. It's not that he hasn't thought about this problem, but he doesn't know what will happen. After all, this has never happened before.

"... If the two industries of industry and commerce become one extreme... If it is the limit of the good side, then naturally the first thing is to have enough tax burdens, so that the court can do a lot, and the utensils will be more abundant. The world's goods We can communicate with each other, the sharp tools will be more useful, more people can be accommodated to work, and the common people can carry out their own business..." Sun Chengzong said several good things in succession.

"... If you talk about the limit of the bad side, this, I think, maybe this profit-seeking heart is the most terrible thing after the two industries grow..." Sun Chengzong hesitated when he finished talking about the good and bad. After a long time, I said that the limit of benefits really has a limit, and Sun Chengzong can also imagine it, but Sun Chengzong doesn't want to think about the limit of bad aspects, it is too cruel.

"Well, let's continue..." Yang Reform looked at Sun Chengzong. His vision was indeed higher than that of ordinary people, but he didn't comment.

"...As the minister said earlier, for the sake of profit, there are tyrants in the south who will drive the poor and hard-working people into the mountains to open mines. , maybe even worse, maybe not even [-]% or [-]%..." Sun Chengzong frowned, and said what he thought was the limit of badness.

"That's right... then why does Master Sun think so?" Yang Reform was a little surprised when he heard Sun Chengzong's words. Surprised, he asked again.

"...This, I don't know where to start. I just think it will happen like this. Fortunately, His Majesty seems to have already considered this issue. Whether it is business or industry, wages and benefits are higher, and gradually It became a rule, presumably because of this..." Sun Chengzong said.

Yang Reform nodded. Sun Chengzong's ability to consider this step is probably the limit.From my current perspective, it is not enough to only consider this.

These preventive measures are certainly good, but in fact, they are not good. The nature of capital has not been fully released. It is still unknown whether it can fully jump into the idea of ​​capitalism and industrialization. The actual history books have capital in evaluating the end of the Ming Dynasty. Why is it that the budding of doctrine is a bud and cannot grow into a towering tree?Why can't capitalism be truly completed?Not only did the Ming Dynasty fail to enter an industrialized society due to its germination, but the Song Dynasty, which had a relatively developed commodity economy, also failed to enter a capitalist and industrialized society...

Thinking of this, Yang Reform felt that his thoughts were innumerable.

(End of this chapter)