I, Zhu Houzhao, join the US imperialist chat group

Chapter 129 Zhu Houzhao: You America lacks a Dongchang or Jinyiwei!
"The entire country can be seen as four factions..."

"Jun, radical, conservative, centrist."

"Classical partisanship is about one person or several people taking the lead and clinging to the power of the king to do things."

"American parties and British parties are not centered around one person..."

"It's about being radical about the development of the country, or being conservative in governing the country..."

Zhu Houzhao was half-concentrated on the group.

Because Jefferson's rhetoric about parties undoubtedly broadened his thinking again.

However, he quickly realized that this rhetoric was nothing new to them.

The two words of Confucian doctrine of the mean have actually explained all of this.

Don't be too radical, don't be too conservative, just be moderate.

In addition, under the guidance of this golden mean thought, most scholars in the Ming Dynasty, Song Dynasty and even the Tang Dynasty tended to be more conservative.

Only the emperor has the obvious characteristics of the three factions: radical, conservative, and middle. The emperor is a party of his own.

The emperor's will can represent all of this.

The emperor was radical, and the development of the country and the country was also radical and the methods were fierce.

Representative emperors include the First Emperor and Emperor Wu of the Han Dynasty. These two emperors are definitely typical radical representatives, and the policies they adopted are also extremely radical. This reflects that Legalism is radical...

By the way, there is also this rhetoric. As early as more than a thousand years ago, Emperor Xuan Liu Bing of the Han Dynasty had an accurate discussion.

This is what he said when he taught the prince Liu Shi like Zhu Yunwen: The Han Dynasty originally had its own system. It is not advisable to be purely hegemonic, and it is not advisable to be purely kingly. It should be mixed with the kingly way!
Apparently, he had said it all.

For the monarch, whether it is radical, conservative, or neutral, whatever is useful is enough.

It's just that this set of statements was eventually distorted by those scholars and used to influence the monarch's governing ideas, and later developed into moderation.

The word moderation here is a complimentary word.

It is the collection of Overlord Dao Zazhi.

But there are very few people who can use it for the purpose of overlord Daozong. Han Taizong Liu Heng is one, Liu Bing is one himself, and even Han Ming Emperor Liu Zhuang is one...

Another group of foolish emperors, such as Yu Wen Yun, Han Ling Emperor Liu Hong, and even Sui Yang Emperor Yang Guang, are also radical representatives...but because they were too impatient and did not even use good means, they caused conservatives and centrists to turn against each other. , suffered a backlash...

Needless to say, conservative monarchs, a large number of Renzong, such as Song Renzong Zhao Zhen, Ming Renzong Zhu Gaochi, and even his father Zhu Youtang, are all conservatives. Even the entire Song Dynasty can be regarded as conservative...

Zhu Houzhao thought a lot at that time, and there were many references available.

But he saw that the people in the group had already finished replying, so he had to suppress this thing for the time being.

This is a huge topic, and it is obviously unwise to analyze the results and get the answer in a short time.

For now, chat first and collect as much information as possible first.

[Supreme Group Leader: Well, since everyone has gained something, Jefferson can also get points. After the evaluation of this group leader, he can get 15 points for his opinion. 】

Everyone in the group has already responded and commented, and basically they are all giving face and no one is naysayer.

Therefore, Zhu Houzhao was happy to give points.

[Supreme Group Leader: Does anyone else have anything to say about this topic? You can talk about anything, even the shortcomings of your two-party system. 】

The advantages of the two parties have come out, and Zhu Houzhao now also wants to dialectically understand the shortcomings of the two parties.

Everything can't just be good, and not everything in America is good either.

[Meixuanzong Jackson: I had no idea at first, but the reminder from the group leader suddenly gave me something to say. Then let me talk about the shortcomings of our two-party system...]

This idea allowed Jackson to grasp the entry point.

He is so talkative about this thing.

[Meliezu Louis XVI: Oh, I’m interested in talking about my own shortcomings. 】

[American Taizong Jefferson: Jackson, can we not mention the shortcomings of the two parties in Britain? I would also like to know, what are the new shortcomings and problems that our two-party system in the United States has encountered? After all, our national conditions are different from those of other countries. 】

[American Yingzong Cleveland: I can talk a lot about this topic, but let President Jackson go first. 】

Openly complaining about his own company also made Cleveland a little interested.

[Mercy Lincoln: This is a good topic. I have something to say about it from this aspect. 】

The group members were interested again, but Washington didn't reply, especially when he saw Jefferson... He thought it would be better to let his old friend take it easy first.

[Meixuanzong Jackson: Then let me talk about the shortcomings, which is purely my personal opinion. 】

Jackson began to speak without hesitation.

[First of all, from my perspective, standing on the time scale of 60 years since the founding of the country, I feel that... the disadvantages of the two-party system are obvious, especially the four-year election, which is a waste of time and energy, and may even cause political and policy discontinuities. It wastes a lot of national resources. Especially once the opposing party with different ideas comes to power, there will often be a big political shift, which not only wastes resources, but even invisibly harms the interests of many civilians...]

Jackson addressed the first flaw. [American Taizong Jefferson: The discontinuity of political policies is an obvious shortcoming. However, Jackson, if the time is extended...the problem of discontinuous political policies may not exist. Taking a one-hundred-year time scale as the base point, according to this model, if there is a normal rotation, conservative and radical should each occupy half of the time. If any faction fails or loses the election in the middle, they will calm down and learn from their previous mistakes and adjust some governing ideas... If the time is extended for another two hundred years and cut using calculus ideas, this should be the same conclusion. 】

Although Jefferson agreed with Jackson's point of view, he quickly refuted it with an example.

Even though he is only in his fifth term here, he can still stand high and see far.

[Mercier Lincoln: President Jefferson’s mathematical point of view on this kind of discontinuous continuity really made me understand this drawback at a glance. So, this is not a drawback, right? 】

Lincoln could only say he was impressed.

[Emperor Xuan of Zhou Dynasty Yuwen Yun: If lonely yin does not give birth, solitary sun will not grow, right? 】

Zhu Houzhao also suddenly understood that the United States also needs to reconcile yin and yang, right?

[Cleveland, the American Englishman: So...President Jefferson, do you think it is normal for the Republican Party to have dominated the United States for a long time after the Civil War? 】

Cleveland couldn't take it anymore.

[American Taizong Jefferson: It’s normal if they can be selected consecutively. During this period, their governing philosophy was in line with the interests of most American citizens, wasn’t it? Instead, you should reflect on why you cannot defeat them. 】

Cleveland was choked.

[American Yingzong Cleveland: Well, President Jefferson, we are indeed reflecting on this. 】

It's interesting, so... once I implement the two-capital-two-cabinet system, I don't actually have to stipulate that I change places every four years.

Whoever does a good job, will I be on the side for a long time? The losing party will reflect on what they did wrong?
Zhu Houzhao's thinking about the two Beijings and the two pavilions has undoubtedly become clearer.

[American Xuanzong Jackson: Well, President Jefferson, you convinced me with your long historical perspective. Then let me talk about another shortcoming, official corruption! In our system, once a certain party is elected president, they will directly place their own people in key departments and completely eliminate dissidents. As a result, people in the entire party are like hungry wolves grabbing food, lying on the United States to suck blood and meat. During this period , no one stopped it, and the harm it caused was more serious than ever. 】

[You also said before that you can take turns eating. 】

[But once the loser sees the winner eating so hard. 】

[After they successfully come up, they will definitely get worse! This will inevitably lead to an even worse situation. This kind of political division of spoils - if it is not stopped, how many years can the United States let us suffer? 】

When it comes to this shortcoming, Jackson has a say.

Because the parties before him, whether it was Adams, Jefferson, or even the previous six presidents, they all did this.

To this end, he carried out the reform of the political spoils sharing system, also known as the political spoils sharing system.

Starting from him, the president can only appoint the first and second leaders of each department when forming a cabinet, and the lower-level officials will not be replaced.

Before Jackson, when a president formed a cabinet, most people in the entire bureaucracy, including those at the lower levels, were replaced.

This is called the official transfer system.

Anyway, it only lasts for four or eight years. If you can't get to that position, of course you have to be open-minded and eat a lot.

After Jackson, grassroots officials were transferred according to their tenure, and no longer rotated with the rotation of the president. This made those grassroots officials have to consider that they should not only fish from the lake, but should fish from the lake in a sustainable way, which in disguise reduced the need to take advantage of the situation.

His move was later called Jacksonian Democracy in the United States.

Because of this move, Jackson completely laid the foundation for the presidential system.

[American Yingzong Cleveland: Agree! Although the problem mentioned by President Jackson has been alleviated during the Jackson period, during the 20 to 30 years that the Republican Party has been in power for a long time, the problem has become more serious and even shocking, and it cannot be solved today. 】

As soon as this came out, Cleveland immediately agreed.

After all, he regarded Jackson as his idol. In order to change this situation, the idol once replaced more than 1,000 officials out of 10,000 in one go.

He also followed suit. After taking office, he also carried out a large-scale replacement of employees. He replaced two-thirds of federal employees in one go, which was nearly a few thousand people.

Why can't he do what the Republican Party can do?

[American Taizong Jefferson: This problem...should be solved by future generations, right? Jackson, aren't you aware of this problem? How to solve it? 】

This problem also gave Jefferson a headache. He could only believe in the wisdom of future generations.

[Meixuanzong Jackson: I am just relieved, but...didn’t Cleveland say it’s of no use. 】

Jackson was a little disappointed, he still wanted to rely on the wisdom of his predecessors.

[Mercy Lincoln: This problem is indeed unsolvable. 】

Lincoln also had to admit that this kind of thing could not be solved.

Eh……

Corruption can’t be solved, so what can we do in the United States?
Zhu Houzhao was surprised. Did these people not want to solve it, or could they not solve it?
[Emperor Xuan of Zhou Dynasty Yuwen Yun: The problem of party corruption cannot be solved... Isn't this very simple? Why don't you set up an agency to specifically monitor officials! If they stretch out their hands, they will catch them! Don’t you have this organization? 】

Zhu Houzhao couldn't help but blurt out some suggestions. They couldn't think of this method.

Jin Yiwei comes directly! If Jin Yiwei can't do it, go to the West Factory and the East Factory!

Is it possible that the mighty United States still lacks a Dongchang and Jinyiwei?

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