I, Zhu Houzhao, join the US imperialist chat group

Chapter 123 Cleveland: We have no advantage, even a dog can do it!
[Supreme Group Leader: All group members can participate enthusiastically. Group members who participate in the discussion can each get 10 points, and those with excellent opinions can get double extra points. In the future, those with the highest points will have priority in using other functions of the chat group. 】

In order to ensure that he could get the information he wanted, Zhu Houzhao also threw out bait and went straight to the nest.

At this time, the group members became energetic.

“The benefits of our two-party system?”

Seeing the topic raised by the group leader, Washington quickly summarized it, as if this was the question he was asking.

Then he thought about it.

This question may not be easy for him to answer.

[American Taizu Washington: Group leader, I seem to be unable to answer this question... because I am a non-partisan person. When the country was first established, I spent most of my time perfecting the presidential system, which is different from kings and emperors. . One thing I can answer is that our two-party system... is actually mainly influenced by the mother country and is the British two-party tradition. Let Adams and Jefferson also establish political parties. 】

Washington quickly responded.

Zhu Houzhao's topic was too big, and there wasn't much he could talk about, but for the sake of points, he gave it a try.

[American Taizu Washington: But... Cleveland said before that Daying became the number one in the world. We in the United States were relatively strong during the Cleveland era. It seems that learning from the two-party system in the UK can also make us stronger? They have become stronger because of this. If we absorb their institutional advantages, we should also become stronger. No, our strength may not only absorb the British institutional advantages, but also absorb the advantages of Louis XVI and the Estates-General... ...and various other advantages. 】

Washington started, and his answer was very uncertain.

Because no matter how powerful Cleveland portrayed the United States, he still couldn't feel the specific strength without putting himself in his shoes.

Therefore, regarding the advantages of the two-party system, he is not sure whether it is the two parties that have allowed the United States to develop so rapidly. What is certain is that they can be regarded as combining the strengths of hundreds of European systems.

[Emperor Zhou Xuan Yuwen Yun: Ah, group leader, I can’t participate in this thing like you! 】

[Supreme group leader: You don’t need to participate, and it’s useless for you to get points. Just watch quietly. Maybe their stuff will be useful to you. 】

Seeing that the atmosphere was not warm, Zhu Houzhao played both large and small players to adjust the atmosphere.

[Meliezu Louis XVI: Useful, but useless to us. Group leader, why do you want to set this topic? In fact, the two-party system is not necessarily very good. I think our three-level conference model is better. What the British have done is not necessarily very democratic. 】

Louis XVI couldn't help but interjected. Their French system was no worse than the British one.

Although he also hates Level 3 meetings.

[American Xuanzong Jackson: I don’t think it’s easy to answer this question, because I think… there is no need for other parties besides the Democratic Party to exist in the United States. What can they do except protest and hold back? Is it beneficial to our development? 】

Jackson was explicit about his distaste for other parties.

[Mercy Lincoln: Mr. Jackson, what you said seems a bit undemocratic and even arbitrary. Just as you single-handedly triggered the economic crisis that led to the cancellation of the Second Bank, if no one supervises or wipes your ass later, you may even lead our United States into the abyss. I think the advantage of the two-party system is that... when the other party is not doing well, it can be corrected in time and use another way of thinking to govern the country. 】

Jackson's speech naturally made Lincoln unable to stand it, and directly mentioned a benefit.

[American Yingzong Cleveland: President Lincoln, what you mentioned is one benefit. But in fact... after the Civil War, your Republican Party has been in charge of the country for more than 20 years. Do you dare to guarantee that they have done a perfect job every time? It's not because you, the Republican Party, have used some means, coupled with the dividends of the Civil War and riding on the fast ship of our rapid development in the United States, that we have been suppressed to death. 】Zhu Houzhao’s topic is very good. As soon as this issue came up, it directly triggered a dispute between the two parties in the group.

The group that had a harmonious atmosphere just now suddenly became tense.

What is the Estates-General?
The advantage of two-party governance is...if the other party does not do well, you can replace it with another party.

Zhu Houzhao ignored the controversy, but directly recorded what he could understand and marked what he did not understand.

[American Taizong Jefferson: So, what does the group leader want us to say about this issue? To be honest... I think the only advantage is that we can unite a group of interest communities and use the state machinery to gain benefits for most of us. After all, the cake is limited and not everyone can eat it. In our situation, the only thing that can be ensured is... to make the conflict less acute, taking turns eating... is also a way to ease the conflict. The time scale is lengthened, so everyone can eat enough...]

[I also think...whether it is an imperial system or our presidential system, this core will not change. 】

[It’s just that during the imperial period, the king or monarch ate more, and other people ate less. We don’t have a king anymore, so we have two interest groups to share the income. 】

Jefferson had already felt that his presence was insufficient just now, and now he naturally spoke actively to increase his presence.

Moreover, his speech was even sharper, directly tearing off the veil covering the two-party system.

The so-called truth was also exposed all at once.

As soon as these words came out, the group was quiet for thirty seconds.

Zhu Houzhao was stunned for a moment. Jefferson just didn't speak. When he spoke, he went straight to the core of the emperor's mind!
So, there is nothing new under the sun. The reason why the United States has developed well is just by taking advantage of technology?
In terms of human nature, especially in terms of people's relationship with power, is it the same in the East and the West?
[American Yingzong Cleveland: He is truly worthy of being President Jefferson. His words hit the nail on the head. President Jackson and President Lincoln, there is actually no need for us to argue. This is what President Jefferson said. Everyone takes turns to eat, which is more fair and democratic. 】

[In addition, in fact, the fact that we in the United States can develop so quickly and have the achievements we have today... I feel that it has nothing to do with who will be the president, the Democrats or the Republicans. Our ability to become bigger and stronger lies in the development of science and technology other than administrative means. Only the voluntary development of other consortiums, wealthy people, and even citizens can make this cake bigger, and only then can we have the opportunity to eat more. 】

[Actually, sometimes, especially after the Civil War, putting a dog on it... might do a better job than some presidents. 】

Cleveland's answer confirmed Zhu Houzhao's inference.

There is no other way. The world and the earth are working together, and the United States has caught up with the storm. Even if it puts a pig on it, it can achieve this result.

Especially from Cleveland's perspective, their system has matured since Lincoln's Civil War...

Those series of Republican presidents are really worse than dogs.

He was obviously bringing in some personal stuff again, criticizing Sang and Lincoln's party.

But when these words came out, Lincoln and the others couldn't understand, but they were deeply offended.

[Meliezu Louis XVI: Pfft! Haha...Cleveland, I managed to make you laugh. This is the first time I have seen people scolding you so harshly! You are not lenient at all when you scold your own people! What exactly have you been through? 】

This time, Louis XVI was made to laugh.

(End of this chapter)