Collect crowd into immortals

"How to judge? Just judge based on his words and deeds!
If he is a good person, then he naturally has a compassionate heart; if he is an evil person, then he naturally has evil thoughts. "

"What if it's an ordinary person?"

"Then it will naturally be judged based on what he usually does."

"Oh?"

Hearing Chen Mu's explanation, Gong Yu laughed, "So, do you think good people are always good people and evil people are always evil people?"

"I didn't say that!"

Seeing that Gong Yu misinterpreted his meaning, Shen Mu immediately objected.

Unexpectedly, Gong Yu had already thought of a counterargument in his mind, "According to you, if you are a good person, you will naturally have a compassionate heart; if you are an evil person, you will naturally have evil thoughts.

So I would like to ask, if a good person does something evil, should he be punished? "

"Of course you will be punished!"

"But you said before that if you do evil unintentionally, you will not be punished even if you do evil! So obviously, this good man did evil unintentionally, so why do you punish him again?"

Chen Mu was speechless, but after a moment he made up his mind, "Brother Gong's words are wrong. The moment he did evil things, he was already a evil person, so he should not follow the principle of 'doing evil unintentionally, even if it is evil'" To absolve himself of his crime without punishment. He is an evil person and he should be punished for having done evil things!"

"Oh?"

After hearing this excuse, Gong Yu still did not admit defeat. Instead, he smiled slightly and said, "Then I would like to ask Brother Shen, how did you know that he is a villain?"

"I have already said that the moment he did evil, he was already one!"

"It's done, so how do other people know?"

Hearing this, Qian Shengfu stood up and said, "Yes, how do other people know? How do we know if he does evil things with malice?

Also, how do we know that he has done something evil, what if it comes to light later, or never comes to light? "

"Don't let others know, unless you do nothing! As long as you do it, it will definitely leave traces and you will definitely be found out!"

"How to find out? I'm afraid Brother Shen doesn't know that there are dozens of unsolved cases in the court every year. How can Brother Shen be sure that they are not the work of some kind person?"

"A good person wouldn't do this!"

"Then who does Brother Shen think will do it? If possible, Brother Shen might as well go to the Yamen and inform the arresting officers of his suspected target, so that they can catch the murderer as soon as possible!"

Chen Mu was completely speechless now.

If he had that ability, how could he continue to keep his family in poverty? He would have been promoted and made a fortune long ago!

After being left speechless by the argument, Chen Mu was about to sit down, but saw that Gong Yu was still unreasonable.

"Teacher, students think that Chen Mu's philosophy has a crucial mistake. Once it is not handled properly, it will definitely harm the people for countless years!"

Hearing this, the master on the stage had no reaction, and Shen Mu jumped anxiously:

"Gong Yu, don't talk nonsense! I admit that my philosophy has flaws, but how can it lead to endless harm!"

When Gong Yu heard this, he was not angry. Instead, he said in a gentle voice: "Brother Shen, please be patient. The teacher is here. I hope Brother Shen will be careful with his words!"

When Chen Mu heard this, he remembered that this was a classroom, not outside, and not a place for him to act up.

"Chen Mu is so rude, I hope the teacher can forgive me!"

"It doesn't matter! It doesn't matter! Gong Yu, just come and talk about it and see if there are any flaws in Shen Mu's philosophy!"

"is teacher!"

Gong Yu gave a slight salute and then said: "Teacher, everyone!
If there is a person now who has done something evil, but after being discovered, he claims that he made an unintentional mistake, should we punish him? "

"It depends on the size of the matter! If it's too big, such as murder and arson, then you definitely can't let it go easily. If you hit someone, or stole a sweet potato, then you can forgive it!"

"Okay, according to what Brother Shen said, stealing a sweet potato can basically be forgiven. So if it were you, and you saw that others stole a sweet potato without being punished, would you steal it too?"

"Of course not! I have read books about sages, how could I do those things?"

Hearing this, Gong Yu smiled slightly, "Yes, you can't! So, what if you haven't read the books of sages? In other words, what about the common people outside our academy who have not read the books of sages? Will they be different? Follow my example?"

Chen Mu was speechless, but in an instant, he suddenly had an idea and said: "Imitating others is intentional and should be punished!"

"Okay, I should be punished if I follow the example, but others have also said that I made an unintentional mistake. What's more, Brother Shen can't deny that there are no unintentional mistakes among those who followed, right?

For example, a person was walking in the field and came across a piece of sweet potato. He happened to be hungry, so he just rubbed it and started eating it.

Then someone came out and said that he did it on purpose. What should he do?How can he justify it?

He said it was unintentional, but no one believed it.

Doesn't this go against what Brother Shen said: "If you do evil unintentionally, you will not be punished even if you do evil"? "

Hearing this, Chen Mu was silent for a long time, and then said: "He should have returned it to others after he picked it up. He ate it directly, which is really wrong!"

"Yes, it's indeed wrong! But he is hungry and won't be able to survive if he doesn't eat. So should he eat or not?

What if he hasn't eaten in three days?

If he scanned for a week and found that there was no one around him, should he endure his hunger and wait there alone?

Brother Shen is so sure that people who lose sweet potatoes will definitely go back?You must have noticed that the piece of sweet potato was dropped? "

Shen Mu was speechless for a long time, and could only say: "These are extreme situations, we can't assume this!"

Hearing this, Gong Yu smiled again.

"Why not?

Teachers often say that people are diverse, and any thoughts or behaviors may occur. How can Brother Shen be sure that this is an extreme situation, or that this situation must be rare?
Furthermore, if Brother Shen believed what Gong said just now, and believed that that person was indeed hungry for three days without eating, then Gong is sure that the next person who steals sweet potatoes will definitely say the same thing.

Maybe even more exaggerated than him.

In this case, how should Brother Shen tell the difference? "

Chen Mu remained speechless.

Seeing this, Gong Yu came to the conclusion: "That's why I say that Brother Shen's philosophy is simply causing endless harm, because he is leading others to do evil!
Once his concept is fully implemented, everyone will be able to evade responsibility on the grounds of "unintentional mistakes". By then, our entire society will be full of small evils.

Because there is no punishment for doing evil, but benefits will be obtained. This can be said to be inevitable! "

As soon as this was said, there was silence in the classroom.

No one expected that this second-generation official who usually only showed off his power would also have this insight.

This guy should not be underestimated!
At this time, even the master on the stage smiled and nodded, "Okay, good! You can continue to discuss another paragraph!" "Yes, teacher!"

Gong Yu's face flushed with excitement, and he breathed a long sigh of relief before temporarily suppressing his excitement.

"As for the part about 'doing good deeds with intention, but not being rewarded even if it is good', it is also a virtue like the previous one. It is encouraging people not to do good deeds, or in other words, advocating people not to do good deeds!"

"How do you call it advocating not to do good deeds? I don't do that at all! It doesn't mean anything like that!"

Chen Mu said hurriedly.

The one just now was praised by the master, so he couldn't refute it again, but this one, he really didn't!You really didn’t say that!
Hearing this, other people also pricked up their ears, wanting to hear what this "advocating people not to do good deeds" was all about?

At this time, Gong Yu said: "I dare to ask Brother Shen, dare to ask all the students, when you are praised by others for doing good deeds, will you feel a joyful thought in your heart? Will you continue to do good deeds? ?”

As soon as these words came out, Princess Ji Mingyao was the first to speak up.

"This meeting! When I was young, I made a plate of rice and date cakes for my father. My father praised me for being sensible. Then I was very happy and made it for him every day. Finally, he got tired of eating it and refused to let me Done!"

At this time, Qian Shengfu also said:

"Me too! One time my mother had a pain in her shoulder. I gave her an old man a hammer and she was praised. Then I gave her old man a hammer on her shoulder every day.

To this day, my mother still praises me and says that I am the most filial person in my family! "

Immediately afterwards, Meng Huai, who was a commoner like Shen Mu, said, "I am the same! There are more farmers over there, so basically you help me and I help me. But when I help others, as long as they say thank you , or if you directly send some reciprocal gifts, I will indeed be very happy, and eating the other party's reciprocal gifts will feel sweeter than usual!"

"Me too! I once helped my father restore an ancient painting. After being praised, I went there often. I didn't give up until my father asked me to study hard!"

"me too……"

……

For a while, many students came forward to express their opinions, saying that praise is indeed useful, and they will continue to do it.

Seeing this, Gong Yu said again: "Then let me ask you, except for the first time, you really have no intention of getting praise at all?"

Everyone was silent.

How can this be?

We were all children at that time, and children love to be praised the most. How could they deny it?

At this time, Gong Yu's lips slightly curled up and he said, "It seems that everyone has it! Then, according to Chen Mu, everyone should not be praised except for the first time.

After all, we do have good intentions! "

"This……"

Everyone was speechless.

This is indeed true.They do have good intentions.But since you have good intentions, you should not be rewarded.However, if they don’t receive a reward, will they continue to do it?
Everyone frowned in thought, obviously having the answer in their minds.

At this time, I saw Gong Yu also talking about this situation: "If it shouldn't be done, will everyone continue to do it?
I think some people do, but how long can they last?
Once, twice, eight times, ten times?

Everyone has heard the story of "Zigong redeems a man" and "Zilu accepts an ox", and we all know the price of not being rewarded for good deeds. So why do we continue to do things that even the sages have already seen clearly and stated clearly? "

As soon as this was said, the school was silent again.

Yes, the ancient sages have already made it clear, do they still continue to do it?

Shouldn't it be?
At this time, Chen Mu stood up again and said, "I still don't think it's appropriate. If you want to be rewarded for doing good deeds, then someone will definitely do it for profit. Wouldn't this be a crime of 'desire for profit'?" Blunder?

Is this still a good person?

This is simply the behavior of a villain who is greedy for wealth! "

"Brother Shen's words are wrong! Take 'Zilu Shou Niu' as an example. Some people save people for the sake of cattle. So, do all the drowning people in Lu State meet kind-hearted people? Can they all be rescued?
Compared with a life, do we really need to distinguish between intentionality and unintentionality? "

"I still think you should have a kind heart! This is for profit and goes against the rules of a gentleman!"

"Is it against the principles of a gentleman? Brother Shen, please forgive Gong for being so presumptuous. If your family falls into the river, everyone on the road will know what you are like, Brother Shen. They know that you only reward those who do good deeds without any intention. So I would like to ask, will they save me?
In other words, when that time comes, do you want someone to save you directly and don't care about the other person's intention or not, or do you want to make a clear decision first? "

Chen Mu did not refute, but said: "We all go directly to save him, we don't care so much at all!"

"Then I would like to ask, when Brother Shen goes to thank others after rescuing him, will he ask the other person if they mean it or not? Or will he give a thank you gift regardless of whether the other person means it or not?"

Chen Mu was speechless.

Needless to say, it must be delivered directly to everyone!
But, but, this is not the same at all, okay!
Anyway, Chen Mu didn't know what to say, he just felt it was different.

As for if they really ask the other party whether they have intentions or not, then Shen Mu can be sure that they will definitely not save them next time.

This is for sure.

But...hey!

Forget it, forget it!

At this time, Gong Yu came to the conclusion again, "So your statement of 'you have the intention to do good but do not reward it even though it is good' and 'asking for rewards for doing good is not a good person' are all advocating that good people should not appear. They all have too high demands on good people, and they all hinder the emergence of good people."

This……

Chen Mu opened his mouth, wanting to say something, but nothing came out.

After all, the other party's logic is indeed impeccable, and no matter how much he refutes, it will just be nonsense.

But fortunately, there are still people on their side.

At this time, another civilian boy stood up.

"Brother Gong, what do you think of this? We can divide goodness into two types, good and partial good."

"What is good and what is good? What is good and what is good?"

“Righteous kindness means doing good without intention, that is, having a kind heart, coming from the heart of helping the world and benefiting others, without seeking retribution or cause and effect, this is righteous kindness!
On the contrary, if you want to gain praise from others and obtain certain benefits, it is biased towards kindness.

Both good and good are good. However, as modest gentlemen, we should naturally pursue what is right and good, and at the bottom we should prefer good and avoid doing evil. "

Hearing this, when others had no reaction, Chen Mu shouted, "Okay! Xia Yang, you said it right! Both the good and the good will be good, so there will be no side effects of blocking good deeds! Well, you are worthy of being my brother, Chen Mu!" "

Seeing this, Xia Yang smiled slightly and glanced at Gong Yu beside him, wanting to see what else the other party had to say.

Unexpectedly, Gong Yu also smiled slightly, and then softly uttered a few big words:

"Xia Yang, you are partial to kindness!" (End of this chapter)