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Chapter 292 Speech scares the ghosts and gods, causing an uproar! (Add more monthly tickets!)
"What kind of problem is this?"

"How can the law and the ritual be juxtaposed!"

"Who let him go up?"

Even if Xun Ke didn't answer, the audience under the podium became unhappy.

They came to see the glory of Confucian leaders, not to see a fool looking for trouble.

Ceremony is ritual, law is law, not to be confused with each other!
What is the ceremony?
Li, Li also!

Courtesy is the greatest morality.

And what about the law?
What is the law?
It's just a lower limit.

If a person says that he knows how to be polite, knows how to be polite, and keeps the etiquette, then he must be very well-mannered, and he is likely to be a good person.

But if someone says that he understands the law, knows the law, and abides by the law, then he is most likely a bad person.

Morality is the highest limit, and law is the lowest limit. How can the two be compared?
Putting aside the higher and better morality and not pursuing it, but focusing on the lower limit, is this something normal people do?

Although Xun Ke said that human nature is inherently evil, it is for the purpose of transforming human nature into falsehood, guiding people to learn, and seeking good from evil. He is not saying that because human nature is inherently evil, everyone is guilty and a natural criminal.

The more people respect the law, the less trust they have in their own moral concepts. This is a reasonable thing, and it is easy to understand.

However, Xun Ke's face did not change much. He also ignored the angry voices of the Confucian scholars in the audience, but replied calmly: "Rites, serve the heavens, serve the earth, respect the ancestors and honor the emperor and teachers. It is the ceremony. There are three basics. Those who follow the rule will govern, those who do not follow will be in chaos; those who follow will be dark, those who do not will be in danger; , not enough etiquette, it is called a people without rules; the law of etiquette, enough etiquette, is called a man of rules.”

Shang said again without the slightest hesitation: "I heard that you said it. Human feelings: food, desire to have grass; Yes; however, years of poverty and many lifetimes do not know enough. People desire food when they are hungry, desire warmth when they are cold, desire rest when tired, love benefits but hate harm, and this is what people are born with.

Today, when it comes to morality, there is no Mohist who came from the Mohist school. However, the Mohist giant took his disciples to travel far away. How many Mohists left over from the Xia Dynasty?
If you want to see a thousand years old, you can count today;

Even the Mohists have to travel far. How is the Confucian etiquette compared to the Mohism's universal love and non-aggression?

Previously, the Four Kingdoms attacked the Great Moon, and when the Great Moon was too late, Yuzhou and Yangzhou fell, Yuzhou burst its embankment, and millions of people died!In ancient times, people competed for Taoism, in the middle ages they competed for wisdom, and today they compete for strength.

The sage does not expect to revise the ancients, and lawlessness is always possible. When discussing the affairs of the world, it is because of it.

The old and the modern are different, and the new and old are different.If you want to govern the people in a world of lenient and gentle governance, you still have no bridle to control the horses. This is an unknown danger.Today's Confucianism and Mohism both claim that the former kings loved the world at the same time, and they regard the people as their parents.How to understand it?
The people are obsessed with the situation, and the few are capable of righteousness.Mozi, a sage in the world, practiced Ming Dao and traveled overseas. There were 70 people in the country who said that he was benevolent and beautiful in his righteousness.Those who value benevolence are few, and those who can be righteous are difficult. "

People have always succumbed to power, and are rarely influenced by benevolence and righteousness.Mozi is a sage in the world. He upholds his sincerity, promotes Mohism, helps the world and saves the people, but how many people in the world appreciate his benevolence, praise his righteousness, and are willing to serve him?It can be seen that there are few people who value benevolence, and those who can do righteousness are really rare.

At this time, even the onlookers are sure enough that although this guy is dressed like a Mozha and his complexion looks like a Mozhe, he will never be a Mozha.

Although he is also using Mohism to attack Confucianism, but his examples are not aimed at Mohism's Achilles heel.

Just like what Zhuang Sheng said when he sat down to discuss the Tao last time, Mozi is good in the world, but what is the world?
It's just that Shang changed his rhetoric. He used Mohism to refer to Confucianism.

If the morality pursued by the Mohists is unobstructed from the top of the mountain, then the Confucianism is halfway up the mountain, but the bottom of the mountain is the largest part, the real people at the bottom.

Renyi said it nicely, but why are there fewer and fewer Mohists?

Is it because the Mohists are too strict, or did they never want to be Mohists?
Doesn't this mean that everyone just talks about benevolence and righteousness, but they really let themselves do it, but they are not moved at all!

"It's interesting!"

Under the stands, Gu Dan looked at the eloquent Shang with a little surprise.

He originally thought that Xun Ke would have no opponents in his preaching this time, who would have thought that talented people would come out from generation to generation.

Although this person looks young, he has a very deep understanding of both Confucianism and Mohism, and he even took out what Xun Ke himself said to add evidence for himself.

It is true that he is not well-known, but what Xun Ke himself said, he must not deny it, right?

What the Mo family has done, and the experience since then, can't be faked, right?

The things that happened in the land of the Great Moon are all facts, right?
In this way, presenting the facts, reasoning, and some words are not inferior to the confrontation of life and death. It can be said that it is step by step, rigorous and meticulous.

This person is definitely not empty talk, but came prepared!

To have such insights at such an age is not something in a pond!

Not only Gu Dan saw Shang's talent, but Emperor Taiping on the podium also looked at Shang without blinking, as if looking at a rare treasure, full of joy.

Get a glimpse of the whole leopard.

Preaching, preaching, this is not playing the game of playing house, the emperor of the Xia Dynasty came here in person, just to see everyone's real talents.

Compared to the contention within Confucianism, it is too light, so light that it makes people boring.

But after the Mohists left, there were no more people who could compete with Confucianism. They couldn't even compare with Xun Ke's ideas, so what else could they use to try against Confucianism?
However, the young man in front of him was different.

He actually agrees with the Confucian concept of "human nature is inherently evil", but compared with Xun Ke's false nature, he feels that "benevolence and righteousness" is a false thing, something that only remains on the lips of the public.

If benevolence and righteousness really exist universally in everyone, how can there be such a thing as Confucianism?The Mo family has already spread all over the world!
It follows from this that Confucianism, which is weaker than Mohism in terms of benevolence and righteousness, has to step back a little bit. How can Confucianism be able to do things that Mohism cannot do?
You Xun Ke are powerful, do you dare to say that you are better than Mozi?

What Mo Zi and Qin Lisheng could not do, Xun Ke can do?

Yes, one person can do it, even a small group of people can do it.

Mozi and Qinlisheng, and even those Mohists have done it.

What about the people of the world?

What can I do!

Your reasoning may be right in Confucianism, but it is wrong in the world.

This is already a blatant attack on Confucianism, no less than the dispute between Confucianism and Mohism.

It's just that Shang is "shameless" because he doesn't believe in benevolence and righteousness at all, and he directly brings it to the stage to say it.

If you take away the core of benevolence and righteousness, and only look at the two characters of etiquette, then etiquette is just a decoration.

Simply put, it’s fine if you don’t teach the Fa directly!

Why take off your pants and fart to extend the word benevolence and righteousness?

As he said: Today's struggle is based on strength.

What is vigor?
It is force, it is strength!
It is the master, the money, the people, and the food that are the key to a country's ultimate victory.

The Four Kingdoms now look up to the Xia Dynasty, is it because the Xia Dynasty is more benevolent and righteous than the Four Kingdoms?

This is true, but the reason behind this is that there was a great master in the Xia Dynasty, and the four countries had to beg for mercy.

Any understanding of Mozi's kindness is used to coax the people at the bottom.

Ke Shang didn't know the secret, but he already understood the key.

This son, amazing!

Emperor Taiping's heart was ups and downs, with mixed feelings, he wished he could hold Shang's hand and hold a candle night chat.

In his life, it is probably impossible for him to achieve more than Wang Mang.

Who are Wang Mang's subordinates?
Gong Shang Guo, Xun Ke, and Qin Li won!

One is a model of hundreds of officials in the Xia Dynasty for decades, one is a Confucian leader, and the other is a Mohist tycoon!

What kind of team does he have under him?
Yes, Xun Ke is indeed still in the Xia Dynasty, but he is the old minister of the previous term. Even if he succeeds to the throne now, the achievements he has made will not be counted on his head at all!
Confucianism flourished during Wang Mang's reign, and it also developed step by step from scratch. Since then, Confucianism's achievements have naturally been attributed to Wang Mang. Where can he get his hands on it?

But who can be without ambition?

A son's achievement does not necessarily have to succumb to his father, and even the son should try his best to surpass his father, otherwise where will the torch come from?
It is the common sense of development that the blue comes out of the blue and is worse than the blue. If one generation is not as good as the previous generation, it will perish long ago!
It is a pity that there are always some outstanding talents far beyond ordinary people. The peaks piled up make people despair at a glance. How can they surpass them?
That's called an inexhaustible genius.

The reign name Taiping actually represented his helplessness.

This kind of helplessness is the helplessness of personal achievement, and has nothing to do with looking forward to the first emperor or not.

But now, Emperor Taiping saw a good seedling.

A well-cultivated seedling may be as good as Xun Ke and Qin Lisheng!

Before he knew it, Emperor Taiping's back was already straightened, and he was extremely focused, staring at Shang with radiance, without blinking his eyes.

A good lord is hard to find, and a good minister is hard to find!
But he is so happy, some people are very unhappy.

"Absurd! If people lack propriety and righteousness, they will be chaotic, and if they don't know propriety and righteousness, they will be disobedient. If people don't have a teacher, they will be dangerous and not upright; if they don't have propriety and righteousness, they will be chaotic and not governed. Ordinary people who want to be good are evil in nature! It is the evil in the world that the monsters deceive the people with their words and regard human nature as livestock!"

A Confucian scholar had already jumped onto the podium, drew his sword, and was furious, "A beast like you who disregards the common people and rejects etiquette, staying in this world is a great disaster! Today I will fight with you, regardless of life or death!"

Unsurprisingly, Shang's remarks greatly angered Confucian scholars.

This is an extremely serious provocation.

A moral dispute is worse than life and death!
When Shang regards the word benevolence and righteousness as nothing, he treats Confucianism as nothing. This is absolutely unbearable.

If even the core point of view can be discarded, why bother with Confucianism?

If humans do not even have benevolence and righteousness, how is it different from animals?

The reason why people are human is because they have clothes, have etiquette, understand things, have benevolence, and compassion.

Without these, people are nothing but beasts in human skin!
Shang’s point of view ignores these things, and only discusses that benevolence and righteousness are not believed by the majority of people, and it is impossible to say and act the same, so benevolence and righteousness are false, which is simply unacceptable to Confucian scholars.

Not to mention that the Confucian scholars couldn't bear it, that is, most of the Mohists had already left, otherwise the Mohists would have to go on stage to fight with the merchants.

Everyone is here to participate in this grand event, but you are good enough to tear down the stage, how can you tolerate it?

"Times will develop, and things will change. The first person who drilled wood to make fire thousands or thousands of years ago is a sage among men. Is there still someone who drills wood to make fire today? Everyone will laugh at his stupidity, is it possible? Will they follow suit?

When the ancient emperors ruled the world, they led the people to work with shovels and hoes. Their thighs became thinner and the hairs on their calves were worn away. Even the labor of slaves was no worse than this.In this way, in ancient times, the position of the Son of Heaven was given to others, but it was to escape the servile support of the gatekeeper and to get rid of the heavy labor of a slave; so passing the world to others is not worthy of praise.

Today's county magistrate, once he dies, his descendants will always have tall cars and horses for generations, so people value it very much.Therefore, people can easily resign the emperor in ancient times, but it is difficult to abandon the county magistrate today; the reason is that the actual benefits are very different. "

Shang said without any fear: "Since Confucianism can see the impracticability of Mohism, why can't it see its own situation? This is not an act of abandoning the near and seeking the far away? Benevolence, righteousness, propriety, and law are all enough to take the law. Why? Adding more splendor will only increase the loss, cover up the name and cover up the truth, it is unreasonable!"

Good guy!
This time, even Gu Dan couldn't help calling him a good guy in his heart.

This person is extraordinary!

This is not surprising words, trying to subvert Confucianism in one go.

Still want to subvert it in front of Xun Ke and countless Confucian disciples!

Is it arrogance or self-confidence?

The Confucian scholar who came to the stage couldn't bear it anymore, how could he continue to listen to his long speech?

The long sword cut across an arc and was about to take Shang's head.

But before it touched Shang's hair, the long sword was grasped by someone.

Shang didn't even blink his eyes, showing no sign of fear, but just looked at Xun Ke intently.

He did come here today to ask for advice, to ask why Confucianism seeks far away.

Xun Ke can see the problems of Mohism, but he has no problem with Confucianism's own problems.

What is the big difference between those who seek fifty steps and those who seek hundred steps?
Mingming Xun Ke also said that "criminal punishment is punishable, and if you don't confess crime, you will be chaotic", so why bother to bring up such things as ritual?
Faced with Shang's puzzlement, to be more precise, it should be the pressing posture of showing his sharpness, Xun Ke simply replied: "If courtesy and righteousness are cheap, courage is valuable, and if you are poor, you will be a thief, and if you are rich, you will be a thief."

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