Daming: Old Zhu, we agreed not to rush!

What’s the explanation for Beilu?

Lao Zhu's questions continued, and Su Jing was not in a hurry to answer, but shouted: "Butler Li, bring a pot of tea!"

She had just woken up, and after talking to Zhu Yuanzhang again, Su Jing was really thirsty to death.

Butler Li heard the sound and immediately brought a pot of tea to the small pavilion.

He didn't dare to hang around here any longer. If his master was talking to the emperor, even if he heard the slightest thing he shouldn't have heard, his head would move.

Su Jing poured a cup of tea by herself, drank it, and then asked Lao Zhu: "Your Majesty, do you want a cup?"

Zhu Yuanzhang looked at Su Jing and smiled and said: "Su Jing, you are really rude. We are in front of you. Please pour yourself tea first."

Su Jing said calmly: "Your Majesty, I am the one who shouted for tea. I think if Your Majesty is thirsty, he will definitely shout for it, so please be careful first."

Su Jing's casual look was as if the Lao Zhu in front of her was the same Uncle Niu who paid a private visit incognito.

Zhu Yuanzhang felt relaxed all over. The relaxation at Su Jing's place was unmatched by any other place.

"Okay, now that we've finished the tea, tell us about Beilu."

Zhu Yuanzhang urged.

Su Jing put down the teapot and continued: "Your Majesty, in fact, compared to the Southern Japanese, the Northern Japanese are more likely to be eliminated."

"Ok?"

Lao Zhu suddenly became interested and asked: "Su Jing, please tell me carefully, what is going on? Why is Beilu easier to solve?"

"No no no!"

Su Jing immediately said: "Your Majesty, I said it is more likely, but this possibility is also slim."

“If we want to really solve the problem in the north, for now, it’s money and food.”

"Now that the Ming Dynasty was founded, it was far from being a world-wide surrender. There were internal and external troubles, so developing agriculture and economy was the Ming Dynasty's top priority."

"And development takes time. At least while His Majesty is in office, I don't see any hope. Being able to continue the national strength and leave a strong family foundation for the successor is already the greatest contribution. ”

The national power of the Ming Dynasty was far from reaching its peak in Hongwu.

The same is true for the establishment of any new dynasty. It will definitely not be in its peak state at the beginning, unless it dies in the second generation like the Qin Dynasty.

The most powerful period of the Ming Dynasty was definitely not when it was in the hands of Lao Zhu.

"Su Jing, we all understand what you said."

Lao Zhu nodded and said: "After all, in order to overthrow the rule of the Yuan Dynasty, too many wars took place in the territory of the Ming Dynasty. The population dropped sharply, the land was abandoned, and all kinds of buildings were destroyed."

"We didn't even think about making great achievements and managing the Ming Dynasty well and passing it on to Biao'er. This is what we want to do most."

"We can defeat the barbarians in the north, but our sons and grandsons must be able to do so, right? Those guys from barbaric lands cannot develop as brightly as we do, right?"

At this moment, Lao Zhu felt his heart go out to Su Jing. He had never said these words to anyone else except Queen Ma.

Today, I told Su Jing this.

Su Jing was not surprised when he heard this. It was reasonable for an emperor like Zhu Yuanzhang to have such knowledge.

Among the trillions of people, there are only a few people in thousands of years who can build up an emperor's hegemony from scratch.

"Your Majesty is right."

Su Jing first expressed her agreement with Lao Zhu's words, and then said: "But your Majesty was wrong about one thing from the beginning."

"Where did we go wrong?"

Lao Zhu asked immediately.

Su Jing said calmly: "The barbarians in the north cannot be defeated."

Whether the Ming Dynasty could destroy the north was a very hot issue in Su Jing's previous life.

After all, the Ming Dynasty reached its peak and was really strong in terms of national power.

The Tatars and Oaras in the north live in bitter cold places, and their lives are becoming increasingly difficult, but they have never been eliminated.

History buffs, it’s perfectly normal to discuss this.

However, at this moment, Su Jing and Lao Zhu talked about this issue from the perspective of the parties involved.

"What's the meaning of this statement?"

Zhu Yuanzhang was a little puzzled.

Su Jing said: "Your Majesty, do you think one person can always make another person submissive by beating him? It's like an older child using force to suppress another younger child. The younger child can't beat him. If you are convinced, can this kind of conviction be maintained forever?"

"Of course not!"

Zhu Yuanzhang replied: "The older children will grow up, and maybe before long, the strength between them will change."

"That's right!"

Su Jing immediately said: "So, even if the young child appears obedient on the outside, he will definitely be unconvinced in his heart and will wait for an opportunity."

"Of course, maybe he will never wait for this opportunity, but he is definitely not convinced in his heart. Once the older child shows any signs of weakness, he will fight back."

"The same is true for the Ming Dynasty and the North. They only relied on force to conquer. It was just drinking poison to quench thirst and could not solve the fundamental problem."

"If you want to truly conquer the north, you have to make the north your own. You don't just have to fight it away, but you need to educate and manage it so that it can be integrated into the Ming Dynasty. This is the real way to conquer it."

Su Jing actually didn't think much about how the Ming Dynasty conquered the north.

But in my previous life, I had seen a lot of similar questions and answers.

At this moment, Lao Zhu fell into silence after Su Jing's words.

The Ming Dynasty's policy towards the north was formulated by him personally, so that the remnants of the Northern Yuan Dynasty who wanted to fight did not have the courage to enter the Central Plains again.

As for preaching and educating the Tatars and managing them, Lao Zhu never thought about it at all.

Zhu Yuanzhang also has a strong sense of being a Han Chinese. A barbarian is not qualified to be a subject of the Ming Dynasty.

However, after listening to Su Jing's words, Zhu Yuanzhang began to think seriously.

In fact, Su Jing was not the only sensible person in the entire Ming Dynasty.

However, except for Su Jing, Lao Zhu would not listen to anyone who suggested this to Lao Zhu.

There is no way, Lao Zhu is the emperor, such a situation is bound to happen.

"Su Jing, according to your statement, don't we want to set up a state capital in the north, station troops, and send officials to govern it?"

Lao Zhu opened his mouth and directly pointed out the meaning of Su Jing's words just now.

Su Jing nodded and said: "Yes, it is easy to defeat the Tatars in the north, but it is impossible to conquer them. If you want to completely eliminate the troubles in the north, you have to bring them into the Ming Dynasty. There is only one way."

Zhu Yuanzhang was silent again.

At first glance, bringing the North under his control is an expansion of territory, which is a good thing.

But Lao Zhu has been managing the Ming Dynasty for more than two years as the emperor of the Ming Dynasty. The larger the territory of a country, the more difficult it is to manage.

Especially in the bitter cold places in the north!

"Su Jing, the Ming Dynasty does not have the conditions to include the north in its territory." Zhu Yuanzhang solemnly said: "The north is a bitter cold land. Those Yuan people are nomadic people. They have no fertile land, low food production, and a sparse population. It is difficult to manage them. It’s difficult, and we can’t pay too much tax to the Ming Dynasty, and even if there are natural disasters, we have to pay money and food from the treasury.”

"The Ming Dynasty's fiscal revenue cannot support the inclusion of the north."

Lao Zhu was quite helpless, listening to Su Jing talk about the method to completely quell the Beibei troubles, but it just couldn't be realized.

It's not that Su Jing's method doesn't work, but that Ming Dynasty doesn't have the strength.

Su Jing poured a cup of tea for Lao Zhu and said: "Your Majesty, drink tea."

Lao Zhu subconsciously took the tea cup, but when he came back to his senses, he immediately said: "Su Jing, you kid, you must have done it on purpose. You just gave us a little hope, and then dashed this hope."

Su Jing immediately said: "Your Majesty, what you said is an injustice to me. I didn't want to say it at first, but you insisted on asking me."

"It's just like Chen, the Minister of the Ministry of War, who insisted on asking me to treat his illness. How can I have any medical skills? The dignified Minister of the Ministry of War almost fell into my house. I was scared to death."

Su Jing believed that Chen Shilang's affair must have spread throughout the capital.

Although Lao Zhu is busy with official duties, he has probably heard of it.

"You still have the nerve to say that! You knew that Minister Chen was sick the next day!"

Zhu Yuanzhang glared at Su Jing and said.

A minister of the Ministry of War immediately complained of illness just because he went to Su Jing's place.

It had only been a few days since Lao Zhu promoted him, so quickly.

Su Jing immediately became unconvinced and said: "Your Majesty, it is too much for you to blame me for this matter. The waist injury of Chen Shilang was not caused by me, but by his own carelessness. Moreover, an injury that cannot even be cured by an imperial doctor came to me again." what's the function?"

Zhu Yuanzhang snorted coldly and said: "Who told you that the name of a miracle doctor spread throughout the capital?"

"Injustice!"

Su Jing immediately said: "It doesn't matter if others don't know. Your Majesty, you should know it. I really don't know any medical skills. Duke E's illness is entirely due to his own good health and has little to do with me. As for Duke Wei, …”

"Okay, okay, don't explain it. Let's just talk about it casually. We won't blame you for this."

Su Jing wanted to explain, but Lao Zhu waved his hand and interrupted him.

I don't know whether it's because she doesn't want to hear the explanation, or because she knows that there are some things that are not easy for Su Jing to explain.

"Yes, Your Majesty."

Su Jing shut up, very sensible.

Zhu Yuanzhang continued: "Didn't you just say that Beilu was still a little bit possible compared to South Japan? Now that I hear it, we haven't heard that possibility."

The problems in the north have always been a worry for Lao Zhu, even more so than the Japanese pirates in the south.

After all, although the problem of Japanese pirates is troublesome, the sea is a barrier for the Ming Dynasty, and it is also a barrier for Japan.

Under such geographical conditions, Japanese pirates are destined to only cause small-scale harassment.

But it's different in the north. Once the Tatars come, there will be vast plains, and Lao Zhu is very clear about the horse fighting power of the nomads.

"Since His Majesty asked, I will continue."

Su Jing took a sip of tea and continued: "Your Majesty and I have made it very clear before that if we want to solve the problem of the northern captives, we need to absorb the northern nomads."

"Your Majesty also knows very well that with the current situation of the Ming Dynasty, the national strength does not allow it. Therefore, if you want to complete this matter, it will definitely not be a one-time achievement. You must rely on your Majesty's descendants to continue to accumulate strength."

"Theoretically speaking, this matter can be solved one day. After all, the Ming Dynasty's national power will definitely continue to grow stronger. This is the possibility I mentioned."

What Su Jing said was quite ideal.

Just hearing it said that, it seems to be quite similar.

"Su Jing, stop being so pretentious. You have to explain to us clearly why this can't be done!"

Lao Zhu was not excited, he already understood Su Jing's routine.

Since it is even possible, it is definitely not possible.

Therefore, Su Jing must not have finished what she said.

"hey-hey."

Su Jing chuckled and said: "Your Majesty, I still can't hide it from you. Regarding this matter, you can't just think about the good things, you also have to think about the bad things."

"The Ming Dynasty's national power will definitely increase, but the increase in national power does not mean that it can implement the policy of conquering the north."

"Judging from the current situation of the Ming Dynasty, it may be difficult to implement this policy by the time the Ming Dynasty's national strength is accumulated enough to conquer the north."

"As for why, I think His Majesty should know it in his heart."

Su Jing did not explain what she said clearly. Although there was no other third person here, some words did not need to be said clearly.

Zhu Yuanzhang was silent. He didn't realize the meaning of Su Jing's words at first glance.

But after all, he is the founder of the country, and his mind is still very clear.

"Su Jing, are you saying that the future kings of the Ming Dynasty cannot control the Ming Dynasty?"

Su Jing didn't say anything, but Lao Zhu said it completely.

That's right.

Looking at the rise and fall of the entire Ming dynasty, the first few monarchs had quite good control over the country.

But as time continues to pass, it becomes increasingly difficult for future generations to be kings.

When Chongzhen fell, the emperor's orders no longer worked as soon as they left the palace.

It's sad, but it's also reality.

"Your Majesty, there is actually nothing we can do about this kind of thing. This is not a problem of the Ming Dynasty. It is the same for any dynasty."

Su Jing whispered.

After all, it was such a serious topic, so Su Jing sensibly lowered her voice.

Lao Zhu's face had darkened. He looked at Su Jing and said: "Su Jing, please stop comforting us. Just tell us, do you mean that when Ming's national strength is sufficient, Ming's internal affairs will be affected again?" If the emperor is restrained, this will not be accomplished."

Su Jing lowered her head and said, "Absolutely."

"call……"

Zhu Yuanzhang took a breath and said: "Sharing hardships means sharing wealth and honor. Is it possible that we should learn from Liu Bang?"

Although Lao Zhu has not yet entered old age at this time, the problems caused by his old friends have already made him think differently.

Su Jing's expression changed and she immediately said: "Your Majesty, that's not what I meant. You may have misunderstood!"

This shocked Su Jing. If he really said this and Lao Zhu killed the heroes earlier, then he would be the sinner of the Ming Dynasty.

"Then tell me, what do you mean? Are you saying that none of the descendants of our old Zhu family are of great use? Are all the future emperors of the Ming Dynasty useless?"

Lao Zhu turned to look at Su Jing, with murderous intent still flowing in his eyes. Although it was not directed at Su Jing, it was still quite terrifying. (End of chapter)