I'm really not King Jing of Zhongshan

Chapter 95 Taizu Li Han, Ordered by Heaven! (14)

Hearing Liu Sheng's opinion, Rao had expected Liu Sheng's gradually mature mind, and Shentu Jiaman's admiring face could not help but be a little surprised.

——It has to be said that Liu Sheng's perspective on today's debate is somewhat beyond Shentu Jia's psychological expectations.

"I originally thought that my son's view of today's debate would be from the perspective of the country and the country, and it would lead to the rebellion that will be triggered by the "Strategy to Cut Fans";"

"Or, like Liang Wang and Gong Zirong, they will regard this matter as a prelude to the ownership of the reserve."

"I never thought that what the young master noticed was the rise and fall of the Huang-Lao theory..."

Speaking with a smile on his face, Shen Tujia couldn't help but stop, and nodded to Liu Sheng with a smile full of approval.

Then, Shentu Jia's face immediately showed a look of sigh and exclamation.

"It is indeed as the young master said: Huang-Lao School arose during the Warring States Period;"

"After Emperor Taizu Gao established Han Guozuo and decided to recuperate and reform with the people, it gradually prospered in our Han family, and even became the most influential school in the Han family."

"This is because Huang Lao's 'no law prohibits, there is no blame', advocated local governance by doing nothing, and Taizu Gao Emperor recuperates, which coincides with the concept of reforming the people."

"But after so many years, especially the rule of Emperor Taizong Xiaowen, the world that was once shattered by wars has regained the scene of peace and prosperity;"

"Under such circumstances, the Huang-Lao theory has gradually lost its need for existence. It was only because of the general trend that it was not banned immediately."

"However, after so many years of 'anle', the Huang-Lao School has become self-styled and does not want to make progress;"

"Up to now, Huang Lao's school has actually declined to the point where even people like Huang Sheng can become Huang Lao's 'everyone'..."

At the end, Shen Tujia couldn't help but shook his head and sighed, and nodded again to Liu Sheng.

"Young master is right."

"Today's debate will definitely accelerate the decline of Huang-Lao School;"

"In another three to five years, at most no more than ten years, there will probably be no young people in the world who are willing to study and delve into Huang Lao's theory..."

Unreservedly expressing his approval of Liu Sheng, Shen Tujia sighed and sighed, but also recognized Liu Sheng's rapid growth more and more.

Shen Tujia is very sure: through today's debate, Liu Sheng has even predicted the future of Huang Lao's theory, so it is impossible not to think of other factors.

For example, the emperor Liu Qi called Huang Sheng and Yuan Gu into the palace, and asked so many people to attend today's debate.

But Liu Sheng didn't care about these, or deliberately 'ignored' them, but instead focused on the longer-term issue of 'alteration of ruling schools'.

Thinking of this, Shentujia quietly had the same thought as the emperor Liu Qi.

"Jackie, why isn't she the queen?"

"Or son, why wasn't he born a few years earlier..."

While thinking about it, Liu Pengzu's questioning sound came from beside his ear, and Shen Tujia could only quickly recover and throw that strange thought out of his mind.

"teacher;"

"--Is what Huang Sheng said wrong?"

Seeing Liu Pengzu stop in doubt, he did not forget to look at his younger brother Liu Sheng beside him;
"I didn't mean to refute Ah Sheng;"

"I know that what Ah Sheng said just now is true."

"But putting aside Huang Sheng's point of 'disregarding Tao and following nature', it seems that there is nothing wrong with Huang Sheng's point of view alone?"

"As a subject, shouldn't one be loyal to the monarch instead of taking the opportunity to stand on one's own feet?"

Hearing Liu Pengzu's question, Shen Tujia only nodded subconsciously: "It's natural."

After these words came out, he saw Liu Pengzu's face became more puzzled, and Shen Tujia finally reacted;

Smiling and shaking his head, he looked around without any trace;
After thinking about it again and again, he finally felt that this was not the place to talk, so Shentu Jiacai turned around indifferently, and looked at Liu Pengzu again.

"Young master said that today's debate ended in a draw, which is not wrong."

"—But this draw is not because Huang Sheng and Yuan Gusheng performed very well, but because they both made mistakes."

"As for Your Majesty, it's not that he thought that what the two of them said made sense, so he failed to make a judgment;"

"It's because today, what these two people said is unreasonable, and His Majesty really can't tell who is more unreasonable, so the final judgment has not been made."

Tasting the restraint of saying a word, Shentu Jia looked around pointedly, and then looked at Liu Sheng and Liu Pengzu brothers again.

"I haven't been to the door for many days, and I miss the two sons a little bit;"

"If there is no other important matter, how about the two young masters, why don't you sit at the mansion for a while?"

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Take Liu Pengzu and Liu Sheng brothers to sit down in the gazebo in the old Marquis An's mansion, watch Liu Sheng leave obediently, and bring a bowl of tea soup for himself;
Grabbing the tea bowl and taking a sip, he felt that the dryness and itching in his throat had eased a bit, so Shentu Jia took a deep breath and explained the key to it.

"In today's debate, Huang Sheng's mistake was to abandon Huang Lao's principle of 'Tao follows nature';"

"Leaving this point aside, there is actually nothing wrong with Huang Sheng's argument."

"As a minister, of course, he should be loyal to the emperor. When the emperor makes mistakes, he should be on the sidelines to persuade and stop them, rather than replace them."

"As for the revolutions of Shang Tang and Zhou Wu, whether they followed the fate of heaven, or killed the king and usurped the establishment, there have been different opinions from hundreds of schools of thought for hundreds of years;"

"Huang Sheng thinks it's regicide and usurpation, and there is no problem."

"—After all these years, no one can prove why Shang Tang and Zhou Wu resisted Xia Jie and Shang Zhou."

"According to the debate rules of 'if you can't falsify, don't refute', which was agreed upon by all schools of thought during the Warring States Period, there is no problem for Huang Sheng to express today's argument."

Hearing this, Liu Pengzu and Liu Sheng, who were sitting in front of the table concentrating, could not help but nodded slowly.

The two brothers knew about this 'hidden rule' of the Warring States Period.

Because of the current Han Dynasty, it has only been more than 40 years since Emperor Taizu Gao Liu Bangli Han Guozuo. The Warring States Period is not too far away for today's Han Dynasty.

And this debate rule, in the words of later generations, is: as long as there is no clear evidence to prove that the other party's argument is completely wrong, one should not speak out to refute it.

If you want to refute, you must come up with conclusive evidence as the basis for your rebuttal.

Just like one day, someone jumped out and said: Shihuang Yingzheng is an extremely benevolent monarch!

According to the debate rules of the Warring States period, or debate etiquette, those who want to debate with them need to produce conclusive evidence to deny the other party's arguments.

For example, Qin Great Wall~
Ah Fang Palace~
straight up~
tax rate~
Even forced immigration, southern and northern wars, and sending Xu Fu to search for immortals and ask questions can all be used as evidence that the first emperor was absolutely not benevolent.

Specific to today's debate, in fact, the same reason.

Huang Sheng said: Shang Tang and Zhou Wu killed the emperor and became self-reliant. They were traitors and traitors. If Yuan Gu wanted to refute it, he had to produce similar evidence to show that Huang Sheng was talking nonsense.

For example, what did Shang Tang and Zhou Wu do at that time can prove that they did not want to be emperors.

——You Yuangu said that Huang Sheng was talking nonsense, so you have to show evidence!

Take out the ironclad evidence that Shang Tang and Zhou Wu 'do not want to take Xia Jie and Shang Zhou and replace them'!

But the crux of the problem lies in this: the passing of time has made it possible for people in the world today to peep into the mysterious corner of that distant history only through history books;
However, that period of history has long been lost in the long river of history with the book burning order of the first emperor Yingzheng and the Xianyang Palace ordered to be burned by Xiang Yu.

From this point of view, there is actually no way to directly falsify Huang Sheng's argument that "Shang Tang and Zhou Wu killed the king and established themselves".

Not only is Yuangu unable to falsify, but in today's world, no one can directly refute the argument of "Shang Tang, Zhou Wu killed the king and established himself".

And this is exactly the reason why similar arguments have emerged endlessly in the past hundred years, but there is still no conclusion.

——In the case of "out of print" history books, no one can produce conclusive evidence to prove that Shang Tang and Zhou Wu were not regicides and self-reliance.

Thinking of this, Liu Pengzu's expression was full of doubts, and he couldn't help but become more entangled.

"Is there something wrong with what Yuan Gu said?"

"——If Shang Tang and Zhou Wu were self-reliant by killing the emperor, wouldn't it be like what Yuan Gu said: Emperor Gao, the great ancestor, also became a traitor who usurped power and throne?"

The questioning voice was full of doubts, but it caused Shen Tujia to shake his head and smile wryly. He looked at the two brothers with full confidence.

"Now, we have to talk about the mistakes Yuangu made in today's debate."

"The mistake Huang Sheng made was that he ignored Huang Lao's standpoint of 'Tao follows nature', and there is no problem with his argument."

"But Yuan Gu's mistake was precisely on the argument."

"—Because Emperor Taizu Gao is completely different from Shang Tang and Zhou Wu!"

"Old Confucian Yuangu looks like a dignified man, but in fact, he is a scum who insists on sophistry to stand up for himself!"

"Because Emperor Taizu Gao's 'following the sky', there are countless evidences!"

Saying this without any hesitation, Shentujia's gaze could not help but be filled with determination!
When talking about Yuan Gu's tone, there was an undisguised disdain.

"In the last years of the Zhou Dynasty, the first one to show rebellion was King Wu Yingdang of Qin who asked about Zhou Ding's importance."

"It is Qin Wang Yingzheng who finally destroyed the Zhou family and ruled the world."

"If you really want to talk about the rebellious officials and villains who 'destroyed Zhou', it should be Qin, not Han."

With a look of nostalgia appearing on Shentu Jia's old face, the anger in Shentu Jia's tone gradually subsided.

Afterwards, even the small half of the old Marquis of An's mansion were immersed in Shentu Jia's calm and gentle tone.

"—At the end of the Qin Dynasty, Chen Sheng and Wu Guang revolted in Daze Township, and the world raised the Yi Emperor Chuhuai King as the leader of the anti-Qin."

"Emperor Taizu Gao participated in the struggle against Qin as a subordinate of King Huai of Chu."

"Later, Emperor Taizu Gao entered Xianyang first, but he did not offend the people in Guanzhong. He also made three chapters with the respected old man: murderer dies, wounding and stealing are punishable."

"Emperor Taizu Gao didn't do anything excessive with respect to Ziying of the third generation. He just invited Ziying of the third generation out of the palace."

"It was Xiang Yu who, after arriving in Xianyang, beheaded the baby of the third generation outside the market in Xianyang."

"On the other hand, Emperor Taizu Gao not only did not approve of Xiang Yu's act of beheading Ziying, but even mourned Ziying after his death."

"Therefore, the traitor who 'destroyed Qin' should be Xiang Yu, not Emperor Gao."

While talking, Shentu Jia's emotions have completely calmed down;

Yuan Gu no longer had the slightest disdain for Yuan Gu who tried to accuse Taizu Gao of being the same as Shang Tang and Zhou Wu in vain.

Yes, just endless indifference and dismissive ignorance.

"Emperor Taizu Gao was granted the title of King of Han by Xiang Yu;"

"At that time, Xiang Yu also obtained the permission of Emperor Yi, King Huai of Chu, before enfeoffing the various anti-Qin princes."

"That's why Emperor Taizu Gao was established as the King of Han, and there was also no arrogance in the etiquette."

"It wasn't until Xiang Yu killed King Huai and established himself as the 'Overlord of Western Chu' that the world was once again full of emotions. Emperor Gao, the great ancestor, also rebelled against Chu."

"——The reason is not to compete with Xiang Yu for the world, but to lead the rebel army against Qin: the righteous emperor Chuhuai's blood feud."

"In the end, Emperor Taizu Gao defeated Xiang Yu, and he was also a prince from all walks of life in the world. He formed a coalition army for King Huai's blood feud, and jointly appointed Emperor Gao of Taizu as the commander;"

"After Xiang Yu's defeat in Wujiang, it was the same princes from all walks of life who forced the emperor Gao to ascend to the throne of emperor in Luoyang..."

As Shen Tujia's tone fell, the faces of brothers Liu Pengzu and Liu Sheng had already taken on a sluggish look;
It's not because the two brothers don't know about this past.

It was Shen Tujia's 'interpretation' that made the two brothers quite dumbfounded...
——If they were not born in the Liu family, the two brothers would even suspect that something went wrong with their own brains!

Liu Bang, Emperor Gao of the Han Dynasty, didn't want to fight for the world?

I think back then, when I entered Xianyang City, the one who had the most fun in the Qin Palace, the wine pool and the meat forest, was Liu Ji, the Duke of Pei!
After being crowned King of Han, Liu Bang didn't even care about the palace of the Han Dynasty. He only waited for Xiang Yu to return to the Kanto, and immediately secretly plotted against Chen Cang, returning Sanqin from Hanzhong!

After pacifying the Guanzhong Sanqin, Liu Bang gathered other princes from all walks of life in the name of "revenge for King Huai of Chu" and formed a coalition of princes to attack Xiang Yu!
And Liu Bang's power as the "commander of the coalition forces" is precisely because Liu Bang is the initiator of the crusade against Xiang Yu!
Not to mention what happened later.

——Pengcheng was defeated, and the 56 princes' coalition army led by Liu Bang, who was killed by Xiang Yu's [-] Chu cavalry, lost their helmets and armor, and collapsed;

On the way to escape, Liu Bang was even more anxious to kick his son Liu Ying and daughter Liu Le off the car, for fear of being chased by the pursuers behind him!
Had it not been for the loyal groom Xia Houying who picked up Liu Ying and Liu Le several times, there would probably not have been Emperor Xiaohui and Princess Lu Yuan in the later Han dynasty.

Afterwards, both Tai Gong Liu Xie and empress Lu Zhi were captured by Xiang Yu, and Xiang Yu sent people to blackmail Liu Bang, trying to force Liu Bang to submit.

The results of it?
——Xiang Yu said, "If you don't surrender, I will cook your father", but Liu Bang replied: After cooking, remember to share a bowl of meat with me...
As for those princes from all walks of life who "forced Liu Bang to ascend the throne", don't even mention it.

King Han Xin of Chu was stabbed to death by a bamboo pole;
Peng Yue, king of Liang, was strangled to death by a rope;
Gongwei, king of Linjiang, Zang Tu, king of Yan, and Wang Yingbu, king of Huainan, rebelled and were defeated and killed;
Han Wangxin defected, surrendered to the Huns, and died in the Han-Hungarian War.

Full of fights and calculations, the princes with different surnames who supported Liu Bang at the beginning, only Changsha Wang Wu Rui and Zhao Wang Zhang Er died well.

——That's all, it's because these two died early!

Even if these two died early, it still failed to change the tragic fate of their descendants.

Zhang Er, king of Zhao, died in the fifth year of Taizu Gao, the year Taizu Liu Bang ascended the throne;
And just a few years after Zhang Er's death, Zhang Ao, the second king of Zhao, was demoted to Xuanpinghou because of his rebellion.

As for the lineage of the king of Changsha, we must always be on guard against Zhao Tuo in the south of the Lingnan, not to mention that Changsha's remote villages, deep mountains and old forests, it is better to be a local rich man in the Central Plains!

The Wu clan of Changsha King, founded by the first ancestor Wu Rui, also died out two years ago with the death of the fifth generation Changsha King Wu Zhu.

In the early Han Dynasty, there were seven princes with different surnames, five of them did not die well, one's descendants lost their titles, and one was confiscated to the "Feng Shui Treasure Land" in Changsha, passed down to five generations without heirs...

Can Liu Bang like this be someone who is 'unwilling to be the emperor'?
Thinking about it this way, the two brothers looked at Shen Tujia with more and more weird eyes...
——Then again, Shen Tujia is so perfect, he can really make it!
Regardless of what Liu Bang was thinking at the time;

At least Liu Bang actually did the things that Shen Tujia said, and left behind black and white historical records and folklore passed down by word of mouth!
Sensing the weirdness in the eyes of the two brothers, Shen Tujia didn't pretend to be stupid, but only smiled meaningfully.

"Rotten Confucianism Yuangu, I really underestimate Emperor Taizu Gao..."

"A wise and wise monarch like Emperor Taizu Gao will never leave the hidden danger of 'usurping the previous dynasty and standing on his own' to future generations to worry about..."

Saying a word full of deep meaning, Shen Tujia couldn't help but suppress his smile a little, and looked at Liu Sheng who was beside him with a slightly serious gaze.

"Young master thinks that in Huang-Lao's theory, there are 'everyone' like Huang Sheng, which means that Huang-Lao's learning spirit is exhausted and cannot last long;"

"And I think that the fact that Confucianism can get a 'doctorate' like Yuangu can also prove that the situation of Confucianism is not much better than that of Huang-Lao School."

"Whether Yuan Gu is trying to confuse the public in order to defeat Huang Sheng, and deliberately confuses Emperor Taizu Gao with Shang Tang and Zhou Wu, or because of Yuan Gu, he really treats Emperor Taizu Gao that way;"

"Today's debate is enough to prove that Zhongni's theory, which has been in decline since the Han Dynasty, has not made much progress."

"Especially at a time when Huang-Lao School is gradually declining, and most of the schools of thought are withering, the Confucianism of today's appearance is simply not enough to become the new prominent school of my Han family after Huang-Lao School."

"Perhaps, it is precisely for this reason that His Majesty gradually favors the Legalists, and draws Legalists like Chao Cuo and Zhidu as his confidantes;"

"—Not because in His Majesty's eyes, the Legalists are really good;"

"It's because your Majesty has no other choice besides Legalism..."

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