Daming 1805

On April 34th in the [-]th year of Taiping, Ming Dynasty, Wenhua Hall of the Western Cape Palace.

The main representatives of Daming and the Anti-Ming Alliance gathered again to officially start the second stage of negotiations: negotiations on matters related to the Lucia battlefield.

The pattern of the meeting scene changed again, and the number of anti-Ming alliance countries changed from ten to nine.

The Ottoman country immediately exited.

Ottoman's representative, Grand Vizier Zayadin, although he wanted to see how the Taixi people negotiated with Daming, but dealing with domestic complicated matters was the real business, so he set sail for the return trip with the delegation.

Muhammad Ali moved to Daming's side and sat down with Sulaiman, the son of the Duke of Persia.

Behind a row of official representatives, it was originally an inconspicuous place, but the representatives of Taixi countries couldn't help but look at him.

Ali sitting there means the split of the anti-Ming alliance, which means that he not only jumped ship, but also turned to the opponent's side.

In fact, in the past few days, Daming's troops have officially entered Cairo and Alexandria in Egypt.

The troops of the anti-Ming alliance had to withdraw completely.

At the same time, in the past month or so, Daming has continued to import weapons and equipment to Kazakh and Khiva Khanate, dispatched military commanders and staff, and asked the two countries to build defense lines and fortifications on the border of Lucia.

There are more than [-] Ming local troops stationed directly on the northwestern border of Persia.

At the same time, with the support of Daming, the three countries began to build the railway in the western region with all their strength, and it is estimated that they will soon be able to build the border of Lucia.

Against such a background, the atmosphere of today's meeting was rather depressing.

After Zhu Jingyuan announced the official start of the talks, Shen Fu was the first to speak on behalf of Daming.

Shen Fu did not directly ask Lucia the "price of peace" as last time, but first asked the question Zhu Jingyuan had raised:

"According to the request of Prince Dashi, as the party who took the initiative to tear up the peace treaty, Lucia should make compensation for this.

"We demand that Lucia hand over all the land in the Lena Valley and the upper Yenisei River."

The expression on the representative of Lucia was already gloomy, and when she heard this request, it became even more ugly.

The places that Shen Fu wanted did not seem to be particularly large, and they were indeed not large in terms of area.

But these places are concentrated in the southern part of the Xianbei region (Siberia).

The valuable place in the Xianbei area of ​​Lucia was originally in the south, because the north was too bitter and cold.

What Shen Fu asked for was the most valuable land in the entire Zhongxianbei (Central Siberia) region.

If these lands are directly handed over to Daming, it is not much different from giving up the entire Zhongxianbei directly.

The point is, this is just compensation for Lucia for breaking the treaty, not talking about the price of signing a peace treaty again.

Prince Nicholas looked at his companion, Wedemeyer, Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the Lucia Empire.

Wedemeyer stood up directly, with a deadly expression:

"His Royal Highness Food King, Shen Shaoqing, there is no need to entangle this so-called compensation.

"You might as well be straightforward, what Lucia needs to do for peace."

Shen Fu looked at Zhu Jingyuan, the situation seemed a little unexpected.

The representative of Lucia did not compromise, but instead seemed to be stingy.

Zhu Jingyuan was a little bit prepared, and now he has decisively and directly explained his requirements:
"Bounded by the Ural Mountains and the Ural River, the east belongs to Daming, and Daming can promise Lucia eternal peace."

Wedemeyer seemed to have expected it long ago, and did not reply after listening.

Then Prince Nicholas stood up, with the same expression of death:

"Abandoning the east of the Urals will make our Romanov dynasty unsustainable, and we will all die, and we can only fight the beasts."

The representatives of Zhu Jingyuan and Daming were a little surprised, but neither showed any sense of shock.

Zhu Jingyuan was noncommittal and said:

"Are you fighting beasts, what does it have to do with our Daming?"

As soon as Zhu Jingyuan finished speaking, all the other representatives of Taixi also stood up:
"What if we were all together!"

"All of us Europa stand with Lucia!"

"We Europa people will not be defeated by Daming!"

"If Daming insists on this, then let the war continue!"

"We will fight to the last man together!"

The representatives of Zhu Jingyuan and Daming were really surprised at this time, and they quickly understood the logic.

Zhu Jingyuan's pile of operations during this period of time constantly put pressure on Lucia, which once again made Daming's pressure on them overwhelmed.

The representatives of the Taixi countries also realized the consequences of selling out their teammates because of Osman's departure from the alliance.

That is, he will also be destroyed by each one.

In the end, all nations have to pay the greatest price for a humiliating peace.

So they stood very firmly behind Lucia this time.

However, although Zhu Jingyuan was surprised, he did not panic.

Although I don't know what moves the Thais will have, I have already prepared for the worst.

The most is to let the war continue to drag on for a few years, and the current Ming Dynasty is not unbearable.

In particular, Daming has now pulled Osman out of the car and directly took a large piece of land next to the Daqin Sea.

The Daqin Sea coast, the two river basins and the Persian Gulf were completely opened up.

The power of Daming will not be constrained by the narrow environment of the Xihai Peninsula.

The war in the Daqin Sea has basically ended, and the next step is to seize the coastal areas of North Africa.

Next, just grab Lucia and give it your all.

So Zhu Jingyuan was still noncommittal:
"That is, if Daming insists on claiming all the land east of the Urals, then the Taixi countries decide to fight with Lucia to the end?"

This time it was the Prince of Wales who responded as a representative:
"Yes, we will fight alongside Lucia."

Zhu Jingyuan waved his hands indifferently:
"Then everyone, please go back to Taixi to prepare for the battle, don't waste time here, see off."

The other representatives of the Ming Dynasty stood up one after another, and it was really a gesture of seeing off guests.

Daming's reaction surprised the representatives of the Western countries.

Then, after a brief period of consternation, they slowly prepared to exit together, reminded by the representatives of Britain and France.

The representatives of Zhu Jingyuan and Daming watched silently from here.

Then after seeing them take a few steps, the representative of Prussia slowed down first, then the representative of Austria.

Next are the Dutch, the Portuguese, the Spaniards.

In the end the British and French also stopped.

Only the Lucian came to the door.

The hearts of the representatives of the Thai and Western countries were a little broken.

Then they looked at the representatives of other countries who had stopped before them, all with expressions of hatred for not turning iron into steel.

The atmosphere at the scene was a little awkward for a while.

Zhu Jingyuan suddenly remembered an idiom: Fifty steps laugh a hundred steps.

The group of representatives apparently did not have the authority to abandon the negotiations altogether.

They should have negotiated and prepared to force Daming to make certain concessions by advancing and retreating together in the negotiation arena.

However, Zhu Jingyuan did not eat this set at all.

The old emperor was worried that the war would drag on for too long and affect Daming's rule, but Zhu Jingyuan felt that the war would not last too long.

Daming doesn't really need to directly occupy much of Lucia's land.

As long as the vassal states are established in Khiva and Kazakh, and the front line is pushed directly to the Urals, it will be difficult for Lucia to persist for another year.

How long other countries in Thailand can hold out is also a question.

In the first battle in history, Lucia always insisted on the war, but she collapsed. After the transformation, she continued to insist on the war, and then collapsed a second time.

The Austro-Hungarian Empire felt that it was no longer possible, so it surrendered first, and then collapsed after it surrendered.

In Germany, a civil uprising broke out in the mainland, the emperor was driven away, and then he surrendered.

If you simply look at the map of the battlefield at that time, when Germany and Austria-Hungary surrendered, the fronts of the two countries were still abroad.

Germany occupied a large area of ​​Lucia at that time, and even just signed a large-scale treaty with Lucia.

As a result, after just a few short months, he also disappeared.

In the era of World War II, the free French mainland was gone but the fighting continued, and Germany finally resisted to the urban area of ​​Berlin.

World War II and World War I are two very different wars.

During the First World War, the whole world was still dominated by princes and nobles.

At that time, it was still aristocratic groups in various countries that drove ordinary people to participate in wars.

Therefore, while the nobles participate in the war, they also need to spend additional energy to maintain their rule.

The domestic order collapsed on its own when the ongoing world war drained the nobles and left them unable to maintain their rule.

On the battlefield, of course, they were also defeated and lost, and they could only surrender.

By World War II, the form of war had undergone fundamental changes, and it was no longer the nobles who drove the citizens to go to war.

A war in which the citizens themselves participated directly, they were able to fight to the last minute.

Of course, if the citizens do not want war, they may also surrender instantly, such as the French Republic.

Because France had fought to the end of World War I and lost a generation.

The current form of war between the Anti-Ming Alliance and the Ming Dynasty is similar to the First World War in the original time and space.

It is all nobles who drive ordinary people to fight, so maintaining domestic rule is very important.

War and domination may collapse at the same time once the power is exhausted.

Although Daming still has spare energy, it cannot be said to be particularly easy.

Otherwise, the Daming Royal Family would not have begun to sell benefits.

But it's easier than the Western countries.

As long as you stick to it, the enemy should collapse first.

Daming can watch the enemy collapse and only win the real strategic goal, without thinking about fully occupying the Taixi mainland.

Therefore, Zhu Jingyuan is not stingy.

Of course, being able to succumb to the enemy without fighting is also a better result.

After all, Daming has his own traveler, and it will be more beneficial for Daming to fight after 20 years.

Zhu Jingyuan looked at the embarrassed representatives of Thailand and Western countries, and said with a smile:

"What's the matter, everyone? Is there anything else to say? Are you going to re-declare war?"

Hardenberg of Prussia said with a dry smile:
"I think we still have some things to discuss and war is not the only solution."

Prussia was the last to want to continue the war, so of course it was the first to speak.

Prince Nicholas of Lucia stood at the door of the main hall and looked back at the people behind him and said loudly:
"Prussians are cowards!"

At this time, French Foreign Minister Talleyrand also came out to dissuade:

"Either outright making extreme concessions, or continuing to insist on war, could bring about the collapse of the Empire.

"However, if you make some concessions, it can also be exchanged for a few years of buffer time.

"Even if you want to fight to the end, it's better to have time to prepare!"

Prince Nicholas' face completely darkened.

What Talleyrand said was true.

Even if you are going to fight with Daming desperately, now you can make some things to delay the time, and save your strength and then fight, the effect will be better.

But now you don't act according to the plan, and it is also a fact that the scene is directly against the water.

Zhu Jingyuan still watched this scene quietly and did not speak.

Shen Fu seemed a little impatient to remind and urge them:

"Everyone, do you still want to go?"

The others looked at the two representatives of Lucia with strange expressions.

Prince Nicholas remained silent.

Wedemeyer had to speak:

"If you want 20 years of peace, what will Lucia have to pay?"

Shen Fu looked at Zhu Jingyuan again, and the representatives of various countries also turned around.

Zhu Jingyuan thought about it and said:
"Central Xianbei was ceded to Daming, Xi Xianbei was listed as a demilitarized zone, and Lucia troops were not allowed to enter."

After receiving the official response from Zhu Jingyuan, all the representatives looked at the representative of Lucia together again, but both of them remained silent.

Neither of them were sure whether the empire would be able to hold out after this condition was brought back and implemented.

At the same time, after thinking about it again, Zhu Jingyuan said:

"But if you really want peace, I actually have two other options here."

Lucia's Prince Nicholas and Wedemeyer were both stunned, as if they had caught the last straw, and looked at Zhu Jingyuan together.

The representatives of other Thai and Western countries also turned their faces and waited for Zhu Jingyuan to speak.

Zhu Jingyuan explained his thoughts unhurriedly:

"The first option is to directly cede the Lena River basin and the Yenisei and upper reaches as compensation.

"Then, split the Xianbei area of ​​Lucia as a buffer country between Daming and Lucia.

"The country belongs to the Romanov family, and the monarch is the descendant of Emperor Paul, but the state system must fully adopt the Ming style and become a foreign vassal state of the Ming Dynasty.

"You can assign those who have a heart to the Ming Dynasty to this country, and keep those who are above Lucia's nationalism in the homeland.

"In this way, as far as the Romanov family is concerned, there shouldn't be much actual losses, and the land they rule can be stabilized.

"Da Ming can guarantee that the vassal will not be withdrawn, given favor, or changed, allowing this vassal state to exist forever. The Romanov family promises never to merge the territory of the country.

"The second option, the premise is still to cede the Lena River Basin and the upper Yenisei River as compensation.

"Then, all of you Lucia become ministers to Daming, and Daming can treat the leader of the Romanov family as a prince.

"At the same time, the country of Lucia must fully adopt the Ming system and hand over one-tenth of the annual tax to Ming as a tribute.

"The area east of the Urals is listed as a demilitarized zone, Lucia is not allowed to deploy a standing army here, and Daming will not ask for troops to be stationed in Lucia.

"Da Ming also promised not to withdraw from the vassal, not to extend favors, and not to change the establishment."

Zhu Jingyuan said these two choices in turn, and the expressions of the representatives of the Western countries soon became more and more exciting.

It is Chinese-style to call the ministers and pay tribute.

The division of territory is Thai-Western style.

Both options appear to be somewhat viable.

Although it looks very insulting, the actual damage is not great.

It is not uncommon for the traditional European aristocratic ruling class to merge or split the territories they rule.

It is not uncommon for some part of the land under the rule of one's own family to belong to other upper monarchs at the same time.

The actual status is determined by the highest territory, and the rest are nothing more than tax issues.

The international status of Emperor Lucia was originally equal to that of the Prince of Ming Dynasty.

After becoming a minister to Daming as a whole, he became a prince officially recognized by Daming, and his status was not bad.

As for one-tenth of the tax, it is equivalent to a long-term war reparations.

The biggest problem is the full adoption of Ming system, which is actually a comprehensive and thorough reform of Ming Dynasty.

In the rapidly developing state of Lucian nationalism, this can really be said to be highly toxic.

Maybe if the reform is halfway through, Lucia will collapse on her own.

Therefore, as a whole, although it is possible to maintain the overall strength of the Ming Dynasty, it is obviously difficult to maintain.

Dividing the Xianbei area to be a vassal of the Ming Dynasty and dispersing people with different ideological tendencies in two countries can indeed make the rule more stable.

However, after the division, the Minghua part has a big problem, and it is obvious that it will quickly and comprehensively fall to the Ming Dynasty and become a real Daming vassal state.

At that time, it is uncertain whether that part of the land can be regarded as the territory of the Romanov family.

But no matter which option you choose, it is much better than directly ceding the east of the Urals.

It is even easier to accept than ceding the Central Xianbei and listing the Western Xianbei as a demilitarized zone.

The outcome of the current war, which ends with a tributary or division of territory, can be regarded as a more reasonable outcome for both parties.

But these things are all issues that the Lucians themselves are considering.

The problem considered by the British and the French was that no matter which way Lucia accepted, it would have to follow Ottoman's footsteps and break away from the anti-Ming alliance.

After Lucia also left, the anti-Ming alliance was really abolished.

The border line between the Western countries and Daming is only a little bit of North Africa, and in the middle is Egypt, the Daming vassal.

Daming really always aims to tear down the alliance!

The question considered by the Prussians and the Austrians, whether Lucia as a whole becomes a vassal state of the Ming Dynasty, or divides the Xianbei area into a buffer zone, Lucia itself has no pressure at all in the east.

Then you can go all out to deal with yourself!

It is impossible for him to become Daming's ally!
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