Daming 1805

Seeing that Daming and Ottoman had basically reached an agreement with Egypt, French Foreign Minister Talleyrand was quick to gain wisdom.

I remembered the question asked by Ottoman Grand Vizier Zayedin just now:

"May I ask Shen Shaoqing, if Ottoman handed over the Palestine area, how long will the peace treaty between your Daming and Ottoman last?"

Shen Fu didn't reply directly, but turned to look at Zhu Jingyuan.

According to the previous agreement, if it is something that has not been determined internally beforehand, just ask Zhu Jingyuan for instructions with his eyes.

Zhu Jingyuan can make a decision directly if he has an idea. If he doesn't think about it, he won't give a definite answer.

Faced with this question, Zhu Jingyuan basically gave the answer without much thought:

"Five years."

Now Talleyrand smiled.

Selling a large piece of territory is only in exchange for five years of peace, and it is impossible for Osman to accept this condition.

Others let out a suppressed astonishment, five years is really too short.

The expression of Ottoman Grand Vizier Zayedin became very ugly:

"His Royal Highness, you declared at the banquet that it was for the peace of this era. Is it just a joke?"

Zhu Jingyuan said of course:

"My promise at the banquet was to promise not to seize your core region, which is the Anatolian plateau, and I am saying the same now.

"If the Ottomans hand over all the land south of the Anatolian Plateau, including the island of Cyprus in the Great Qin Sea, to Ming, then Ming can promise you permanent peace.

"And Daming will provide protection to Ottoman and promise not to cooperate with Lucia and Austria to dismember Ottoman."

This is a promise, but it is also a naked threat.

There were bursts of exclamations at the scene.

But the meaning of everyone's exclamation was different. Some people were purely surprised by Zhu Jingyuan's straightforwardness, while others were slightly moved.

For example, the Lucians thought of Constantinople, which can be called a spiritual sustenance.

The Austrians also thought of more land in the Balkans.

Ottoman Grand Vizier Zayedin thought of all the situation, and then said loudly in a very heavy and painful tone:

"Da Ming's promise may be very important, but promises can only be exchanged for promises, not land."

Zhu Jingyuan said without hesitation:
"If you don't change it, you don't change it, let's sign the contract directly according to the front line, or don't stop the war at all, let's go back and continue fighting!
"I am Da Ming's Dashi King, and I want to get all the Dashi regions that Da Ming thinks of!"

Zayedin was silent and unable to respond to the threat.

But some people just can't stop talking.

British Prime Minister William Pitt immediately stood up, ready to say a few words:
"Don't get excited, both of you, let's negotiate slowly, how about we both take a step back?
"His Royal Highness, our anti-Ming alliance still exists, and we haven't disbanded yet.

"If Ming Dynasty wants to continue the war, then our alliance still has to continue..."

Without waiting for him to finish speaking, Zhu Jingyuan directly interrupted and said more forcefully:
"Then let's keep fighting! I might as well tell you directly that I don't support the truce!
"It's better for us to just collapse, go back and continue fighting, and fight for another three years, five years, ten years!
"I look at you Xiyi, and see how many years you Ottomans can last!"

Without waiting for their response, Zhu Jingyuan got up and left the Wenhua Palace.

Guan Tianpei and two staff members followed quickly.

Shen Fu also got up expressionlessly and announced:

"Let's stop here for today's meeting. Go back and think about it carefully. If you really don't accept it at all, you can return to your homeland."

A question from Talleyrand caused the situation on the scene to take a turn for the worse, and the representatives of all countries were dumbfounded.

Under the urging of the palace guards, he quickly left the Wenhua Palace and the Xinggong Palace, and immediately held an internal meeting when he returned to his residence.

Since there are too many countries in the Anti-Ming Alliance and the language types are too complicated, it is impossible for people to translate to waste time, so they still use Daming Yayan.

The young French prince Charles was the first to speak:
"Why is this prince of food capricious? He said that he came for the peace of our era, but today he said that he did not agree with the truce."

French Foreign Minister Talleyrand shook his head and explained:

"Your Highness, Prince Dashi's attitude is not capricious, he just expresses his purpose in different ways under different circumstances.

"He did come here with peace on behalf of Daming, but this peace has a price and conditions.

"Between Da Ming and the Netherlands, Portugal, and Spain, all achieved long-term peace after Da Ming achieved its strategic goals.

"The current situation is that Da Ming failed to achieve his goal on the battlefield, so he wants to achieve it on the negotiating table.

"We all accept their terms, there is no need for war, so there is peace.

"So he did come for peace."

Others roughly understood this logic, but they all felt very aggrieved.

The logic is like: You give me everything I want, we can get along well, and I won't do anything.

The Prince of Wales of England suddenly said a little annoyed:
"Da Ming is too arrogant, what he didn't get on the battlefield, he still wants to realize it at the negotiating table?
"The goals proposed today are only the goals in the Dashi region, and the goals in Yinzhou and Lucia are not known how big they are!
"How much land does he want from Lucia? How many colonies does he need to get in Yinzhou? Can they achieve all their goals?"

Spanish Prime Minister Manuel said in a heavy tone:
"When Da Ming achieves his goal, he can give peace, but who can guarantee that Da Ming's goal at this stage is the ultimate goal?

"Da Ming initially only recovered the islands near their homeland, then took control of the entire Southeast Asia, and then the entire Daming Ocean and Little Western Ocean.

"Right now, Daming is claiming the entire Dashi region, and the goals of Lucia and Yinzhou have not yet been clarified.

"Who knows how much this insatiable dragon will have to get before he can really stop?"

British Prime Minister William Pitt felt that the direction of the discussion was being guided by others, and immediately stood up to take over the conversation and presided over the order:

"His ultimate goal has been laid out, at least temporarily, and he has pledged not to claim continental European lands.

"The requirements for Ottomans have also been raised, and they will not claim the Anatolian plateau, that is, the Asia Minor peninsula.

"So our question now is, are we going to trust him? Are we going to accept that condition?

"Can Osman accept it? If not, what should we do?"

Manuel subconsciously asked:

"Directly discuss whether to accept Da Ming's request? Shouldn't we first judge whether it is Da Ming's bottom line?"

Pete looked at Manuel:

"You mean, to find a way to repeatedly test Da Ming, what is the minimum condition for giving permanent peace guarantee?"

Manuel nodded as a matter of course:
"That's right, negotiating is about bargaining."

Pete responded directly:

"You're right, but that's against opponents at the same level, at least there won't be an absolute difference.

"Facing an opponent like Daming, do you dare to fully believe in the bottom line that you tried so hard to test?
"Have you ever thought that you get a perfunctory result that may make the other party give out casually when they are impatient?

"When you thought you had successfully obtained the best conditions, what you met later was a punishment war of refusing to negotiate?

"Do you still remember the endings of exterminated countries and regimes in Chinese history that you have learned?

"The Ming people saw the difficulty of ruling Europe, so they promised never to invade Europe.

"But if your repeated probing irritates them, they don't have to rule, they can just chastise.

"In the past 2000 years, their strategy against the northern nomads was to punish rather than rule.

"In particular, the two emperors Hongwu and Yongle of the Ming Dynasty attacked the northern grassland more than 20 times, with the sole purpose of killing people.

"After that, they went out to burn the grasslands in the dry season for a long time, so that the livestock in the grasslands would starve to death in winter.

"Take the initiative to cut off the trade of salt and daily necessities in the grasslands, so that the Mongolians can only use cowhide bags to cook food..."

Facing Pete's questioning, Manuel's expression was a little awkward, and then he spread his hands helplessly and said:
"That can't be what Da Ming said, right? The ancient nomads posed a great threat to the Central Plains, and we also have similar abilities now..."

Pete responded directly:

"Do you think the same? Can you go to Damingyang and Xiaoxiyang to completely destroy Daming's communication lines?
"Back then, the Ming Dynasty could not find the nomads who lived in no fixed place, but now they know where our homeland is.

"Have you considered the Ming Dynasty's attack on the North Atlantic Ocean?
"Especially your mainland of Spain, which is now exposed to Ming's navy!"

Manuel asked a little impatiently:
"Then what do you think we should do?"

Pete looked at Ottoman Grand Vizier Zayedin:
"I am inclined to accept that even if you are given ten or twenty years, it will be difficult for you to develop to the point where you can compete with Daming.

"But I can't make decisions for others, Osman has to think about the specifics.

"I still think that we, as an alliance, negotiate with Daming collectively, and it is better to be able to get the conditions.

"The result of any country negotiating with Daming alone is that Ren Daming can get whatever he wants."

Pete tried his best to exaggerate Ming's threat, and the direction was obviously to encourage other countries to accept Ming's request with anger and humiliation.

Then continue to stay in the anti-Ming alliance led by itself, and maintain the pattern of the entire West and West fighting against Ming.

For this reason, Pete did not say some words, and Talleyrand of France also thought of it, but after opening his mouth, he still did not speak.

But Hardenberg of Prussia made up for them:

"Da Shi Wang and Shen Fu Shaoqing both mentioned that Osman can ask Daming for support, and Osman can work hard in this direction.

"Give up the lands of the Arabs in exchange for industry and a fleet, and even a system of shipbuilding technology for the Turks...

"Besides Anatolia, you have lost the best two river basins in Asia. What's the point of guarding a place like Syria?
"The colony of Syria can be exchanged for Ming's commitment to guarantee permanent peace. I think it can be considered."

Osman is also a suture monster. What Zhu Jingyuan and Daming asked for were all from the Arabian region, which is the Dashi in Da Ming's name.

The main Ottoman ethnic group is the Turks, mainly concentrated on the Anatolian plateau.

Hardenberg was reminding Osman that the abandoned lands were actually colonies, which could be exchanged for local industrialization.

Then turn to Da Ming in terms of strategy, seek Da Ming's protection, don't continue to follow the Taixi Anti-Ming Alliance, anyway, they can't protect you.

This is another way for Osman.

Pete and Talleyrand, of course, understood this logic, so they immediately gave Hardenberg a hard look.

Manuel of Spain and Archduke Karl of Austria also frowned.

Where are you from Prussia?Your homeland has nothing to do with the Mediterranean, so you just want to confuse the Mediterranean, right?

Let Daming help Ottoman promote industrialization and learn shipbuilding, this is eye salve for all Mediterranean countries!

Now the Thai and Western countries are allies with Ottoman, but they have fought countless times in history.

If Ottoman accepts Ming's request and asks for those industrial and technical help, it may cause them to fall to Ming in an all-round way.

Although Ming promised not to occupy European lands, Ottoman did not make any guarantees.

What if Daming sent troops in the name of Ottoman?
Even if you Prussians don't want the war to continue and want to persuade Ottoman to accept Ming's conditions, you can't use this method!
Didn't the British show you a demonstration?Continue to remind Daming of the threat and terror!

Zayedin has fully understood the meaning of these Taixi people.

Some people are exaggerating the strength of Daming, reminding themselves that they cannot refuse Daming.

Some people are describing Daming's ferocity as a warning to themselves of the consequences of refusing.

Some people said that Da Ming was able to protect him because he reminded himself of the benefits of accepting Da Ming.

Although the angles are different, the purpose is the same.

They didn't want the war to continue, and they didn't want to help them fight Da Ming, so they all hoped that they would accept the conditions.

I just don't know if you will be so active when you get Daming's request.

Zayedin did not express his thoughts, but sighed softly and said:

"Thank you for everyone's suggestions. I need to think about it myself and confirm it with Sudan."

Representatives of the Thai and Western countries bid farewell and left together, leaving only Zayedin and Ali from Egypt.

After thinking about it, Ali began to speak:

"Grand Vizier, facing an opponent of Ming's level, even surrendering the tribute is nothing.

"For most ordinary countries, it is even an honor to become a vassal state of Ming Dynasty.

"Besides, Ottoman is originally an Asian country, not the barbarians of Taixi.

"If there is no anti-Ming alliance, perhaps Ottoman has become a vassal state of Ming."

Zayedin waved his hand weakly:

"I understand, you go back first, let me think about it myself."