Daming 1805

Chapter 109 Name and criticize Lucia

After the polite compliments and cheers came to an end, Zhu Jingyuan continued to explain his formal thoughts:
"To show our sincerity, after this peace talks are over, we, Ming Dynasty, can make a formal peace promise.

"We, Ming Dynasty, will never - claim and occupy the Taixi Continent - which is what you call the Europa Continent.

"But the countries of Thailand and the West must also make a promise that they will never claim and occupy any new land outside Mozhou and Yinzhou.

"These commitments can be written down in the peace treaty that will be signed after this negotiation."

Before Zhu Jingyuan finished speaking, there was a burst of exclamation at the scene.

British Prime Minister Pitt instinctively asked:
"May I ask His Highness the Great Food King, is this a promise made by you personally, or a promise made by the Ming Dynasty and the royal family?"

Zhu Jingyuan replied directly:

"Our Majesty the Emperor of the Ming Dynasty, the Ming Dynasty Hall and the imperial family, and myself, we have made a joint commitment, but the premise is that the negotiations are over and the peace treaty is signed normally."

Immediately, warm and sincere cheers erupted at the scene, as well as the sound of multiple camera exposures in succession.

Although Da Ming "sold" his teammates several times, those teammates who were sold did not actually have any substantive covenants.

In the case of comparative advantages, it was impossible for Ming to conclude an equal alliance treaty with the barbarians, only the unequal relationship of the tributary states.

After Zhu Cihong, the tributary state was required to become a real vassal state, and there was no such thing as the previous tributary state that did not fulfill its obligations.

Businessmen or organizations pretending to be the name of the country to deceive the tribute were completely eliminated after Daming understood the world situation.

The original Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, and the United Kingdom all refused to sign the suzerain-vassal treaty to become a vassal state of the Ming Dynasty.

So they all "considered" to be allies of Daming at that time, but in fact, Daming had no "written evidence" at all.

Except for the routine suzerain-vassal treaties, the agreements signed by Ming Dynasty were basically armistice treaties.

Moreover, they are all peace agreements after the ideal goal is achieved, and there is basically no need to fight the other party in the future.

The Netherlands, Portugal, and Spain have all been driven out of the Daming Ocean and the Little Ocean, and there is no longer any direct conflict between the two sides.

Daming didn't bother to talk to them anymore.

So the agreements that Daming actually signed are actually very reliable, but things without written documents are meaningless.

All countries in Europe and America understand this very well.

If Daming really made a written promise that he would not seize the land of Taixi in the future, the leaders of the Taixi countries and the royal family would cheer.

As for the commitments they themselves need to make, it's not a big deal.

Daming Ocean and Little Western Ocean were already within Daming's sphere of influence.

The places they can continue to develop in the future are already only Yinzhou and Mozhou.

The reason why Zhu Jingyuan wanted to make a promise on behalf of Daming was to reduce Daming's pressure on Taixi as much as possible.

The direct cause of the outbreak of the last war was that the pressure that Daming put on the Taixi people exploded.

Originally, it was just to capture southern India and Egypt, but accidentally broke into a world war.

Now the countries of Thailand and the West have to truly believe that Daming really has no interest in their homeland, so that they can really let go of their fights.

Daming did not have much interest in Taixi native land.

Taixi doesn't have the resources that Ming is interested in. The key is that there are more than 3 million Taixi people here.

The few Boers in Nanmo made it difficult for Da Ming, and it was impossible to occupy the hometown of [-] million Thais and Westerners.

In the history of the British Empire, it was the Boer War that showed its fatigue and its hegemony began to weaken.

Zhu Jingyuan didn't want to go to Europe to fight an enlarged Boer War.

As for Zhu Jingyuan's own ideal goal, it is to drive all the Westerners back to the mainland.

Use the Western continent as a reservation for the Westerners, and use economic and cultural means to contain and interfere.

At that time, no matter whether they can truly integrate or not, it will be difficult to pose a real threat to Ming Dynasty.

At the same time, it can also be used as a warning, an external driving force of hostility, so that the local Ming Dynasty will not completely lie flat and decadent.

Since they were not going to occupy the mainland of Taixi, this kind of promise is a matter of benefit and cost.

Moreover, Daming's promise of this kind will only be formally made when the contract is formally signed, and will only be officially written into the peace agreement.

Before the signing of the peace treaty, it was all empty talk.

But this empty talk is like a carrot, which can urge the Thais to slightly lower the negotiating goals and implement this promise as soon as possible.

Zhu Jingyuan smiled and nodded amid such cheers, and continued to explain his thoughts and attitude after the cheers subsided a little:

"Our Daming commitment is very cautious and serious, so far we have never voluntarily breached the contract.

"We promised not to deploy capital ships in the Great Qinhai (Mediterranean), and we have never built capital ships there.

"The most is to build a few armored cruisers, until the Thai and Western countries declared war on their own initiative, our Ming Dynasty gave up the promise.

"After we formally signed an armistice agreement with Lucia, the Netherlands, Portugal, and Spain, Ming has never unilaterally provoked a war.

"Especially Lucia, since the three Xianbei wars more than 100 years ago, our two sides have signed a formal peace treaty.

"After that, we never launched a single attack on Lucia.

"Even if it was later discovered that Lucia could pass through the tributaries west of the Lena River and several tributaries on the Yenisei River, posing a certain threat to our mainland border area of ​​Ming Dynasty.

"But we never thought about occupying the past.

"We have maintained peace with Lucia for 100 years, until Lucia joined the Anti-Ming Alliance and provoked this war.

"Our two countries have just entered a state of war again.

"Therefore, Lucia, Spain, Portugal, and the Netherlands must unilaterally tear up the armistice treaty with Ming and take the initiative to make necessary compensation for waging war against Ming.

"Especially Lucia!
"We guide you to transform and prosper, so that your royal family can be passed on normally, and have changed your hundreds of years of palace coup tradition.

"You guys turned around and fought each other with force!

"Now it's hard to believe your sincerity in the truce!"

Following Zhu Jingyuan's words, the scene quickly fell silent.

The representatives first looked at the four countries mentioned by Zhu Jingyuan, and finally they all fell on the face of representative Lucia.

This is a name-calling criticism...

The chairman of the Lucia Council of Ministers, who is equivalent to the position of prime minister or prime minister, Ivan Andreyevich Wedemeyer, the expression on his face became very ugly.

Prince Nicholas of Lucia stood up directly, and said loudly with a somewhat ferocious expression:
"Even if the last Lucian is dead, it is impossible for us to give up land outside Europe!"

Nicholas' reaction surprised Zhu Jingyuan, and he didn't immediately understand why the other party's reaction was so strong, as if he had been greatly insulted.

The atmosphere at the scene suddenly dropped to freezing point, and the entire hall was silent.

But Zhu Jingyuan already had experience, and when things happened that he couldn't understand right away, it was probably because his memories of two lifetimes were confused.

So Zhu Jingyuan sorted out the memories of this world in this life, and gradually understood the logic in the brains of Prince Nicholas and other Taixi people.

I just said that Ming can guarantee that it will not occupy the land in Taixi. The underlying meaning is that it is possible to occupy land outside Taixi.

For other Western countries, they have no sense of this potential meaning, because their native lands are all within the Western range.

Only Lucia and Ottoman are not pure Western countries.

Osman was not named by Zhu Jingyuan to ask for compensation, and Osman did not wrong Daming, but it was equivalent to not being guaranteed.

As far as Lucia is concerned, Daming is now asking Lucia to make compensation by name, in line with the previous promise made by Daming, which has formed a misleading.

Lucia and other Taixi representatives subconsciously believed that Daming was demanding compensation for all of Lucia's non-Taixi territories.

More importantly, the boundary line of the Taixi continent in this era is not the one that Zhu Jingyuan was familiar with in his previous life.

Not the line of the Ural Mountains, the Ural River, the Black Sea, the Caspian Sea, and the Caucasus Mountains.

This line is the modern continental boundary that was basically determined in 1846.

Before 1846, the Thai-Western border in the traditional cognition of the Thai-Western people was the Black Sea, the Sea of ​​Azov, the Don River and the line to the north...

There is no very clear border north of the source of the Don River, and Moscow, the capital of Lucia, happens to be in this area.

Therefore, according to the traditional Western border, Moscow might not be a Western city at all.

It was not until the continental border was moved to the Urals in 1846 that Moscow became a serious Western city.

The matter in the Norwegian continent is led by the Lucia people.

Although most of the continental boundaries are on their land, it is more convenient for them to investigate and analyze, and it is easier to find a suitable natural boundary.

But there is always a feeling of forcibly leaving Asia and entering Europe...

This may be one of the reasons why Taixi people do not regard Lucia as the same kind.

Therefore, now Prince Nicholas instinctively thinks that all the land of Ming Dynasty is in the east of Somosk.

This kind of request is obviously impossible to accept, even if Lucia is dead.

After thinking about it, Zhu Jingyuan couldn't help laughing out loud, and really laughed out loud:
"Haha, Prince Nicholas, don't be nervous, our Ming Dynasty's promises to the Western countries do not include Lucia's and Ottoman's.

"Because Lucia and Ottoman are not Thai-Western countries, they are likely to be Xianbei or Mongolian, so the peace promise between us will be discussed separately.

"I have no idea of ​​claiming territory east of Moscow, nor of the Anatolian Plateau, these are all sincere..."

After Zhu Jingyuan smiled and explained, the atmosphere at the scene quickly recovered.

Especially the joke between the Xianbei and the Mongols made all representatives of Daming and Taixi laugh at the same time.

This joke is not an insult, but a way of saying that he has a close relationship with Daming.

Only Lucia had embarrassment written all over his face, but the inexplicable anger just now was indeed gone.

Several representatives of Osman were also quite nervous before, but now they are a little more relaxed.

Daming promised not to plan for the Anatolian Plateau, which is of course a good thing for them.

But in fact, the effect of skyrocketing prices has actually been realized.

In the subsequent negotiation process, they will subconsciously regard this as the first round of asking price.

After the atmosphere at the scene became more relaxed, Zhu Jingyuan slightly raised and lowered his hands, and the scene quickly became completely quiet.

Zhu Jingyuan continued to explain his vision:

"Shenzhou and Europe promise each other that they will no longer plot against each other's homeland and fortress areas, which is the first pillar to ensure peace in the era.

"Now I would like to talk about the second pillar, which is to formulate general principles for the peaceful conduct of international affairs in the agenda of the meeting.

"The first is the basic principles. We need to clarify the concepts of territory, territorial sea, and airspace, and define the concepts of inland seas, border coastal areas, and high seas.

"The purpose of these basic principles is to define which lands and seas and spaces are areas through which all nations are free to pass.

"Which areas require the authorization of the corresponding country to pass through innocently, and which areas can be regarded as a declaration of war if entering rashly.

"Then, clarify the principles of exploration, development, and possession of unclaimed land, and determine land ownership instead of war according to this set of principles.

"In the end, although I pursue peace, I also understand that war cannot be completely avoided, so it is also necessary to formulate rules related to war.

"How to declare war, how to mediate, how to sign a contract, what kind of general process should there be.

"Which weapons can be used, which weapons cannot be used, how civilians and prisoners of war are treated in war.

"What kind of tactics is a normal act of war, and what kind of behavior is a crime against humanity that violates principles.

"I hope that we can formulate all these principles and rules during this peace talk, and abide by them together in the future."

Zhu Jingyuan paused at this point, the scene was quiet for a few seconds, and then more enthusiastic cheers broke out again.

Zhu Jingyuan initially said that it was for the sake of peace in this era, but all the representatives thought it was just superficial polite words.

When Zhu Jingyuan said that he promised to expand the scope of each other, the representatives really cheered and became happy.

When Zhu Jingyuan mentioned the principles of international affairs, the representatives began to think seriously.

Finally, when it came to the principle of war, the representatives began to be sincerely convinced.

If these promises, ideas, and principles can be realized, then the frequency of wars in the future world will definitely be reduced.

This young prince of the East really came with a vision of peace.

The key is in the end, the pursuit of peace, but not the extravagant hope of completely avoiding war, but a controllable attitude towards war.

This is the mentality of the benevolent who truly understands the world.

If both sides of the war can really fight in accordance with the rules, the damage suffered by ordinary people and soldiers in the war can also be reduced.

Whoever came up with these ideas is definitely admirable.

Many representatives directly and loudly pledged on the spot that they are willing to jointly formulate and abide by these principles.

Work hard to pursue peace and make war controllable.

There was lively discussion at the scene for a while, and then spontaneously quieted down one after another.

Because Zhu Jingyuan said before, these are the first and second pillars to ensure the peace of the times.

Then there should be a third pillar.

After all, only three legs can stand together.

Of course Zhu Jingyuan was ready, so he spoke directly at this time:

"Finally, the third pillar of ensuring peace in our time is the organizational platform that oversees and enforces the first two pillars.

"All of our countries have jointly formed and joined a broad international organization to coordinate international conflicts and relations.

"Discuss and determine territorial principles, resolve disputes over colonization, and monitor the conduct of both parties to war.

"And impose collective sanctions on countries that violate the principles and order them to make corrections.

"To put it bluntly, it is to let all countries have a place to sue, negotiate, quarrel, compromise, and exchange interests.

"We could call him the Parliament of Nations, or the League of Nations."

Zhu Jingyuan's suggestion is of course good, just like the original idea of ​​the League of Nations was also good, and many representatives cheered again.

But some professional diplomats and politicians have keenly discovered some problems.

Da Ming definitely wants to join this organization. What is Da Ming's position in this organization?

Should Daming judge the quarrel between several Thai and Western countries?
(End of this chapter)