This time Jiang Dejing and the others did not answer so quickly, and even hesitated a little.After all, this was the first time that Ming had asked a Western country to cede land and pay compensation, and no one knew how the Westerners would react.

After about 20 seconds, Jiang Dejing said: "My Ming Dynasty wants to explore the South Seas and open up the waterway connecting the West Seas. Malacca is a must. This is indisputable and cannot be compromised.

As for the reparations, folk discussions are based on the theory that the Dutch occupied Dongfan Island for 20 years.Putting aside some nonsense, the expected compensation is probably between 100 million taels of gold and 200 million taels of gold.

But as far as I know, the Dutch established their country through business and valued profits very much. Even if they were only asked to pay a million taels of gold, it would be difficult.

If my Ming Dynasty intends to make the negotiation a success, I will not fight the Dutch for the time being, or I can reduce the compensation and replace it with other conditions. "

"Then what conditions does Dahonglu think should be replaced, and how much indemnity should be retained?" Zhu Wei asked.

"This..." Jiang Dejing hesitated for a moment, because he didn't know enough about the Netherlands and Nanyang after all, so he bowed and cupped his hands and said, "I don't know, please forgive me, Your Majesty."

Auntie Zhu was not disappointed about this, she nodded and said: "It's okay, I, Ming Dynasty, have not set foot in Nanyang for nearly 200 years, and I only know about the Western affairs in this dynasty, so Dahonglu doesn't need to ask for blame."

Seeing that the other three people also looked contemplative and did not intend to make any suggestions, Auntie Zhu quickly said, "Go back and let everyone in Honglu Temple discuss this matter."

"Yes."

In the hearts of ordinary people in later generations, the trench mirror was rented by Portugal from Daming, with a ground rent of 500 taels of silver per year.

This is because Chen Jitai is in charge of the negotiations with the Dutch and related matters.Even Kuang Lu, the diplomatic envoy, is only the negotiator in charge.

However, this kind of openness was beyond the grasp of the Ming government at that time. Not to mention the merchant ships of Southeast Asia and Nanyang countries, the colonists such as Portugal were actually robbers. Be careful when looting and disturbing the people.

Although the Spaniards and the Dutch are old enemies, and there are conflicts of interest in Nanyang, Daming still has to try to avoid the two parties joining forces to deal with Daming.

Originally, the Netherlands wanted to choose Malacca, while Daming wanted to choose Dayuan.The two parties could not reach an agreement, and each took a step back in the end. In addition, after the negotiation was completed, a third party was required to be notarized, so they chose Haojing.

However, if someone is present, they will find that what these big figures are discussing at this time is not a matter of negotiation, but a matter of trench mirroring.

Of course, the above is a superficial statement. In fact, both parties have their own calculations on this choice.

Listening to Chen Jitai mentioning the trench mirror issue again, the two generals Zheng Hongkui and Huang Tianci are fine, so don't think too much, just wait for the order.

Therefore, it is still necessary to facilitate this negotiation and make the Dutch surrender as soon as possible.

Haojing City Bosuo (formerly the Municipal Bureau of Shipping, now a sub-customs under the jurisdiction of Guangzhou Customs), the main hall of the yamen was closely guarded by a team of garrison troops, and the idlers were kept away ten steps away.

It doesn’t matter if it is said that Ming didn’t pay much attention to such a small area of ​​Portugal and Haojing, or it could be said that Ming didn’t know what the land leased by other countries meant. In short, Daming was actually forced to lease Haojing to the Portuguese.

"Msg Gong thinks that if less compensation is required, what conditions should be added?"

During this period, the Portuguese learned more about the situation in Daming and the Pearl River Estuary, colluded with pirates and smugglers in Daming, and were suppressed by the Ming government, so they directly occupied Tuen Mun Hai Ao (Tuen Mun Island) in the same year. Build fortifications, set up execution grounds, and make firearms.On the surface, they sometimes imitated the bandits and pirates of the Ming Dynasty and occupied the mountain as king, but in fact they carved stone monuments to show Portugal's occupation of this place.

In 1511 (the sixth year of Zhengde), they destroyed the Kingdom of Malacca (Ming transliteration: Manlajia), blocking the trade route from Shenzhou to the Indian Ocean.

Auntie Zhu did not want the third massacre against the Ming people to occur in Luzon Island. If the Spaniards really wanted this, Ming would definitely send troops to intervene.

But in fact, there are many twists and turns in this matter.

It stands to reason that Li Yutian and Zheng Hongkui are above Chen Jitai in terms of official length and seniority, but at this time it is Chen Jitai who sits in the leading position, and Li Yutian and Zheng Hongkui are ranked first on the left and right.

In the past one and a half years, the Ming and Dutch parties have negotiated and selected this place for formal negotiations.

Therefore, the Guangdong government acquiesced to Portugal's "occupation of the mountain as king" on Tuen Mun Island, and ignored it for a while.

When Aimee Zhu said this, it was obvious that she did not want to have another war with the Netherlands at this stage.

The Portuguese were very good at drilling. After continuing to understand the national conditions of the Ming Dynasty, they bribed the guarding eunuch of the Guangzhou Municipal Bureau of Shipping, "Shang Da Tian Ting", and used money to open the way, and established relationships with Jiang Bin, who was next to Emperor Zhengde at that time, and other eunuchs and eunuchs. After hearing about these people, Emperor Zhengde had a good impression of the Franji (Portugal) people.

In the hall, there are Chen Jitai, the governor of the South China Sea, Li Yutian, the governor of Guangdong, Kuang Lu, the diplomatic envoy in charge of negotiating with the Dutch, Zheng Hongkui, the admiral of the Nanyang Navy, and Huang Tianci, the commander-in-chief of the third town of the Guangdong Garrison.

Zheng Hongkui first said: "Chen Futai don't worry, Navy No. 11 Towns, Twelve Towns, and No. 13 Towns are cruising on the sea surface of Guangdong, and Navy No. 14 Towns are on standby in Pearl River Bay and Lingdingyang. , which can be invoked immediately."

Hao Guangming stopped talking because he was out of food.

Because according to the secret report of Fusi in Jinyiwei North Town, Spain in Luzon Island seems to be planning to take some action against the Ming people on the island.

You can also let the Dutch share their explorations to the Australian mainland, which is what they call New Holland, and the shipping routes around the world to Europe and America..."

As soon as this policy came out, Guangdong was almost fully opened to overseas countries, and foreign merchant ships flocked in an endless stream.Naturally, more Portuguese merchant ships came and moved more freely.

There's no shame in spending money on things.

"Your Majesty has an order. Before negotiating with He Yi, we should first resolve the issue of the trench mirror. If necessary, force can be used." Speaking of this, Chen Jitai, who has the title of minister of the Ministry of War, looked at Zheng Hongkui and Huang Tianci, and asked: "Water?" Are the divisions and garrison deployed?"

The Ming Dynasty had implemented a sea ban policy for many years before, but in 1514, Wu Tingju, the right minister of Guangdong, promulgated the "Fanbo Tributary Transaction Law", which stipulated that foreign merchant ships were not restricted, and they could pay taxes and sell goods as soon as they arrived in Guangdong.

Kuang Lu and Huang Tianci sit at the bottom left and right.

Li Yutian and Kuang Lu recalled a lot of information about Haojing that they had learned before.

So I checked it online directly, and even posted a reward for help on Huhu and other platforms.

···
Trench Mirror (Macau).

Among the Western colonists, Portuguese businessmen (also colonists and robbers) were the first to arrive in Southeast Asia.

After the four of them left, Aunt Zhu chatted with Hao Guangming about the conversation just now.

Chen Jitai nodded slightly, and said: "Your Majesty's will is very clear. Force should only be used as a last resort. Solving the trench mirror problem without bloodshed is the best choice."

Huang Tianci said: "Our first battalion and second battalion have already encircled the trenches, and the third battalion is on standby near Shibosi. With a military order, we can enter the trench."

In 1513, a group of Portuguese merchant ships (also pirates and colonists) came to the Pearl River Estuary and asked to land for trade, but failed to obtain the approval of the Ming government, so they traded with Ming merchants on the sea, which was actually smuggling.

Hao Guangming also understood this situation, thought for a while and said, "We can let them improve the status of the Batavian Ming people, and allow Daming to establish an embassy and garrison there.

At that time, there were imperial envoys and local officials in Guangdong to report to the court, requesting to expel the Portuguese, but because Emperor Zhengde had a good impression of the Portuguese and also liked Western ingenious things, they refused, so the matter was dropped.

After the Portuguese learned of Emperor Zhengde's attitude, they became even more unscrupulous.

In 1517 (the 12th year of Zhengde), there was even a Portuguese fleet sailing into the Pearl River, trying to break into Guangzhou City.

Second more.

Good night~

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