Sail across the sea

Chapter 188 This Doesn't Violate Policy
Hearing Gao Fan's question, Pan Yue's first reaction was: This kid really belongs to Zheng Linong, and he must be going to help him apply for funding from the ministry.

"30 to 50." Pan Yue replied.

"Does this figure include the salaries of these engineers in your technical department?" Gao Fan asked.

"Of course it doesn't include it." Pan Yue said, "This is what we do in the first place, and wages are definitely not included."

"What if the salary is included?" Gao Fan insisted.

"Counting the salary..." Pan Yue thought about it in his heart, "We need about 30 engineers, about a year, and the salary is 4 yuan. Also, we need assistance from the workshop to do experiments. It is hard to calculate how many working hours it will take. , let’s count it as 4 for the time being.”

"This is what it looks like from 40 to 60." Gao Fan made a summary for him.

The 30 to 50 that Pan Yue mentioned before is actually a relatively rough calculation.Technology research and development does not have a set plan like production, and some expenditures cannot be calculated in a very precise manner, and can only be estimated based on experience.Pan Yue has a technical background, so the estimated figures are not too far off the mark.

"Actually, if the Ministry can allocate 20 yuan, the rest will be easy to handle." Pan Yue said.

He was not that optimistic, and he didn't think the Ministry could allocate 40 to 60 at once.If the Ministry can allocate 20 yuan, the provincial government will feel embarrassed not to provide some matching funds.As for the salary expenditure that Gao Fan just asked about, it belongs to the investment of the factory, and it doesn't matter.

Gao Fan didn't answer the question, but continued to ask: "The second question is, what is the cost of the 5000-ton device you designed, Mr. Pan thinks?"

"No more than 800 million." Pan Yue answered without any hesitation.

"The production capacity is 1600 yuan per ton?"

"It's about the same. In fact, it can be lowered a little."

"Each set sells for 1200 million, can it be sold?"

"If someone buys it, it must be possible."

Pan Yue's answer sounded a bit strange, but Gao Fan could understand it.What Pan Yue meant was that 5000 million yuan for a set of 1200-ton equipment is not expensive. Converted into a unit of production capacity, that is 2400 yuan per ton, while imported equipment is 1 yuan per ton.

The so-called "if someone buys", the meaning is very complicated.Those who can afford 1200 million must be state-owned units.When a state-owned unit invests in a set of equipment, it does not just depend on the price. There are many factors to consider.Pan Yue understood this point, and so did Gao Fan.

"I will pay 50 yuan, and ask the hydration equipment to help design a set of 5000-ton polyester equipment. In the future, the hydration equipment will use this design to manufacture polyester equipment, and I will pay 50 yuan for each set of technology royalties. Mr. Pan How do you feel?" Gao Fan asked.

"What?" Pan Yue didn't understand at once. After thinking for two seconds, he looked at Gao Fan in astonishment and asked, "You offered 50, where did you get 50?"

"Where do I get the 50 yuan? Boss Pan doesn't care. Boss Pan just needs to tell me if this condition is acceptable." Gao Fan looked at Pan Yue cheerfully and said.

"This is definitely not possible." Pan Yue shook his head and said, "If you pay 50 yuan, this design will belong to you. We have to pay you every time we produce it, and each time it is 50 yuan. We are at a disadvantage. "

"Why don't you think about it, you can make a gross profit of 400 million yuan by producing a set of equipment, is it very high to spend 50 yuan as a technology royalty?" Gao Fan said.

"However, if we spend 50 yuan ourselves, this technology can be developed, why should we pay you every time?"

"Because you are reluctant to take out the 50 yuan."

"..."

Pan Yue was momentarily at a loss for words.

In the past two months, because Pan Yue did not receive funds, he was unable to start the design of the small polyester device.However, he has calculated countless times about the design ideas of the device, as well as input and output.

He said that the device can be developed with an investment of 30 to 50 yuan, because he already has a complete technical route, and only needs to do some experiments to determine the final solution.

As for the production cost and possible sales price, based on his experience, it can be estimated more accurately.

Gao Fan's plan, in Pan Yue's view, is simply Hong Guoguo's money grab.With an investment of 50 yuan, the technology will definitely be developed.

After that, as long as the hydration plant produces a polyester plant, Gao Fan's initial investment has been fully recovered, and the future will be a net profit.

The 5000-ton domestic device is calculated as 1200 million sets, and the unit investment is only equivalent to 1/4 of the imported device.Although no unit has expressed its willingness to purchase, as long as there is a beginning, there will certainly be no fewer follow-up orders.

Even if there are only 10 orders across the country in the future, Gaofan can still receive 500 million technology usage fees, which is a 10-fold return. Can money grabbing have such a high profit margin?

Hmm, the main reason is to grab 500 million yuan at a time, which is too difficult and risky. How can Gao Fan make money so easily.

However, knowing that doing so would bring 10 times the profit, Pan Yue couldn't do it by himself.

"This kind of thing is not allowed by the policy?" Pan Yue finally thought of a reason.

In fact, this is what he was thinking subconsciously when he said "definitely not" at the beginning.

He has never heard of such a thing as privately funded research and development, and the company has to pay privately for each set produced.

If the amount involved is 50 yuan, maybe he can still ponder whether it is feasible, but Gao Fan's mouth is 50 yuan, which is not bad.

In Pan Yue's mind, let alone a transaction of 50 yuan between a private person and a company, even if a private person owns 50 yuan, it is a shocking thing, and Gao Fan dared to say that.

"Policy matters, I'll figure out a solution." Gao Fan said, "I just said that I will contribute 50 yuan, but I don't mean that I personally contribute so much money. How can I personally have so much money?

"What I'm talking about is that our Canghua Technology and Trade Co., Ltd. and your hydration facility cooperate in the development. We pay the money, you contribute, and the final result benefits both parties. Doesn't this violate the policy?"

After all, he briefly introduced the situation of Canghua Technology and Trade to Pan Yue, especially emphasizing that this company was established at the request of Zheng Linong, and it was Zheng Linong's experimental field.

"So that's the case." Pan Yue's heart fell to the ground, but he still felt a little emotional, "Xiao Gao, you have done a good job, and your products can be sold to Japan. You mean, you can get 50 yuan." Do this?"

"I can't get it out yet, but it should be out soon." Gao Fan said, "Lao Pan, you can say hello to your factory first, and when we get back the payment for the first batch of export products, we can Sign with you.

"However, let me put my ugly words in front of you. If our money is in place and you lose the chain here, I will not be polite."

(End of this chapter)