Wandao long distance

Chapter 353
In Zhu Fengdan's cave, Li Qi was chatting with his teacher after a long absence.

After Zhu Fengdan asked the question, Li Qi immediately replied: "I have encountered some problems, and I want to ask the teacher for advice."

It is only natural for students to ask teachers for advice.

"Oh? You're so smart, I thought you wouldn't encounter any problems in Qipin. Tell me, what's the matter." Zhu Fengdan asked.

"Me, why me?" Li Qi asked.

This is the question that Li Qi is most confused about.

Me for me.

It's not clear at all.

"This question... Well, I'm thinking about how to say it. It's too early to tell you this, and it's hard for you to understand, and it may even mislead you, causing you to have other problems later. "Zhu Fengdan's head looked troubled.

Moreover, his hand was still scratching something ten meters away. Looking at that thing, he probably wanted to scratch his head.

Too bad he can't do it now.

But Li Qi could tell that his distress was real, and Teacher Zhu really wanted to scratch his head.

Because this kind of thing is really hard to say, if you tell Li Qi directly, the problem may be even bigger.

One is not good, Li Qi's understanding is wrong, or he knows something in advance, which leads to early development, which in turn affects the future path, and it may be a dead end.

In such things as the road, if one step is wrong, every step is wrong.

It would be too costly to change after making a mistake, otherwise why would so many powerful people choose to reincarnate and rebuild?

It's really hard to return, so I simply kill myself and start over.

Zhu Fengdan was distressed for a while, then his head flew up and shook: "But, you are also a person with a sense of proportion. Now you ask me this, you must know it in your heart, right? You have gone to see the witch god, and he will definitely do it too." Advise you on this."

"Teacher has a clever plan." Li Qi cupped his hands and said.

"Since this is the case, then I won't tell you what to say, let's talk about a few conjectures. Remember, these are all conjectures, and none of them can be believed. They contradict each other and conflict with each other. They can only be used as inspiration for you. use."

Hearing Zhu Fengdan's words, Li Qi sat down cross-legged, then took out a pen and paper, listened carefully and prepared to take notes.

Of course Li Qi understood.

In the process of enlightenment, there will be such things, and you will find that your views on the same thing will be completely deflected at different times.

Moreover, both views seem to make sense, and if used in practice, they can also exert different effects.

That's why I say the road is dangerous.

At the ninth rank, a useful idea is adopted, but at the eighth rank, this idea may become part of the shackles, and you don't know it yet, you will only find that your cultivation base has begun to stagnate, but you can't find the reason.

At this time, it is better to have a good teacher to give advice than to work hard for ten years.

Zhu Fengdan began to play the role of a teacher for the first time, and started talking to Li Qi.

He didn't use the preaching tone used in preaching, that kind of supernatural power is used to tell extremely complex and systematic knowledge, and can condense a large amount of information in one syllable.

What he wants to teach Li Qi today is not those things.

What he wants to say today is just 'guess', something similar to small talk.

Only for inspiration, never for any substantive teaching.

Because of this kind of thing, Zhu Fengdan's thinking may be right for him, but if he tells Li Qi, if Li Qiqi does it, his life might be ruined.

Zhu Fengdan thought for a while: "Assuming, I mean assuming, that a powerful person created an identical you with his supernatural powers, then this person, is it you?"

"No." Li Qi said immediately.

No matter in terms of intuition or thinking, although the two people are exactly the same, they are obviously not the same person.

"That's right, of course it can't be you, because no matter how similar they are, these are two separate physical entities. Killing one of them will not affect the other, and your two thoughts are not connected, so we can draw a conclusion, That is exactly the same body, not the necessary condition for me to be me." Zhu Fengdan talked eloquently.

Li Qi wrote furiously below.

Zhu Fengdan went on to say: "Although these two bodies are the same, you are independent and self-contained entities, and they are essential things. The independent existence of each other does not need to depend on other things."

"Then, taking this assumption to an extreme point, after creating an identical you, all aspects of you, including thoughts, memories, and feelings, are exactly the same as before, and then completely destroy the original you. At this time, this new You, is it still you?"

Facing this question, Li Qi thought for a while, and then replied: "To other people, he is me, but to 'me', he is definitely not."

Zhu Fengdan nodded his head: "That's right, now there are two more questions."

"The first question, the you in the eyes of other people in this world may not be the real you, and the real you may not be recognized by other people."

"So...?" Li Qi was a little puzzled.

Zhu Fengdan emphasized again: "Don't ask so, 'so' is what you come up with yourself, I only talk about the doubts caused by these things, and think about others."

Then, he went on to say: "Now let's talk about the second question, that is: since the physical bodies are exactly the same, but because they are two different entities, there is no continuity in time and causality, so it can be concluded that the two The exact same person is actually different from this conclusion, so it is a counter-evidence that he is not you."

"So, if we continue to go to the extreme, we abandon the entity of the flesh, and now another personality appears in your mind. This personality is the same as what I said before. He has all your thoughts and memories, and has nothing to do with you. Love what you love, hate what you hate, understand what you know."

"Then, this second personality, he has no body, he is just another consciousness that suddenly appeared. Now, this personality has killed your original personality, quietly and without any pain, and has taken control of your body. Then , is he still you?"

This question was a little trickier, and Li Qi fell into deep thought again.

If it is said that the physical body is due to the existence of physical entities, so the difference between the two entities can be clearly distinguished no matter what, because the two have no continuity of time and causality, and exist independently and freely...

What about the spirit?

If the spirit also undergoes such a change, does that mean that there is a spiritual entity like the physical entity of the body?Only in this way can there be the spirit of 'two'.

With the existence of this spiritual entity, can the spirit and will be judged, because the spiritual entity and the physical entity have the same nature, and can be unified by the continuity of time and causality?

This spiritual entity cannot be the soul, because the soul is a real substance, not an illusory consciousness. The soul undertakes part of the responsibility of thinking and is a part of the physical body in this world.

Because it is not a spirit, the spirit is more mysterious, but it is still a distinguishable entity?

While Li Qi was thinking, Zhu Fengdan didn't stop.

He continued: "If you understand the above two steps, then we will go one step further this time. Now that you have amnesia, you have lost all your memories. Then, such a personality that is exactly the same as before your amnesia appears, is he you? Are you Or is it not you?"

Li Qi's thinking was interrupted, and his mind was messed up.

If it is said that spirit has substance, then in what form does this substance exist?
The answer is obviously that thoughts, memories, feelings, and preferences are the characteristics of spiritual existence, because apart from these, people cannot prove the existence of spirit at all.

Only thoughts, memories, feelings, preferences, these things can prove the existence of spiritual entities.

Then, if a person suddenly loses his memory permanently, and he completely forgets his previous experience, then, everyone knows that it is difficult to say that this person is still the same person at this time.

The person with amnesia is no longer the original person. Although he has continuity in time and causality, it is difficult for anyone to admit that he is the original person.

Because from the perspective of thoughts, memories, feelings, and preferences, he has become another person, he is another spiritual entity, because the representation of his spiritual entity has completely disappeared and he has become another person.

At this time, another spiritual entity with the characteristics of the past suddenly appeared. At this time, who is who?
According to thoughts and memories, the second will that popped up is real, and the one with permanent amnesia is fake.

Li Qi fell into doubt.

But Zhu Fengdan seemed to be endless, and continued to ask without stopping: "Then, the spiritual entity and the physical entity are not enough to prove that you are yourself, so what is the proof of yourself?"

Li Qi frowned, he suddenly raised his head and said: "According to this statement, teacher, does self-identity appear to be a bit prominent on this issue?"

Matter is an independent entity in itself.

Spirit is also an entity that exists independently of matter.

Because of the existence of these two entities, the entity has causality and time continuity, so it can be judged as 'I'?
So, 'I' is an entity with temporal and causal continuity?

Therefore, to arrive at the answer, what matters is identity.

Is this the answer?
Li Qi didn't know.

"Don't ask me, today I'm only responsible for conjectures and asking questions, not answers." Zhu Fengdan rolled his eyes: "Today is the third time I've said this, next time I'll do it."

Li Qi shut up obediently and listened obediently.

After that, Zhu Fengdan continued to make various conjectures.

For example, does spirit really have substance?Are the choices you make out of free will, or are they out of many external factors that have been previously determined?For example, the state of the brain and the state of the soul.

If the puppet of the truth, as long as it is precise enough, it can be almost the same as a real person.

Then how to judge that others are not puppets, but really have a spiritual entity?
Human thoughts are likely to be just a fluctuation produced by various substances governed by the laws of physics to form a specific neural network.

For another example, are spiritual properties independent of material properties?Is the mind the spiritual attribute of a physical entity?

Zhu Fengdan talked for a whole day, not talking about anything practical, just talking about these questions without any answers. These questions led in contradictory directions, but each made sense.

For a whole day, he bombarded Li Qi with these endless questions.

There are too many such conjectures, too many 'possibles'.

Li Qi felt like his head was going to explode.

Every time Zhu Fengdan asked a question, he was giving him a new choice.

Now there are hundreds of choices in front of him, and each of them seems to be right, can be used, can be used as a guide to the path, and some can even be developed downwards, so as to develop new techniques, The new supernatural powers allowed him to increase his combat power dramatically, or improve his cultivation by a bit.

But the more choices there were, the more confused and afraid Li Qi became.

Owning too much is actually a kind of magic obstacle.

The inner demons gradually arose, and the evil thoughts of fear and doubt began to breed in Li Qi's heart.

Zhu Fengdan glanced at Li Qi at this moment.

His body was covered in cold sweat, his hands and feet were shaking, the paper and pen used for recording were thrown on the ground, his eyes were bloodshot, countless thoughts were rolling in his mind, and the answer to each question seemed to be related to everything in his future.

Ugh.

Long before this sermon, Zhu Fengdan said in advance that it is not good to pull a seedling and encourage it. Telling Li Qi about some things will only add to his burden and make his future path more difficult.

You see, here it is.

However, he still believed in Li Qi.

It is difficult, but it is always smooth sailing. In fact, it is also very dangerous, and the ability to resist risks will be greatly reduced.

Alas, Taoism is such an awkward thing.

A safe journey is actually dangerous.

Is it right to deliberately abandon stability, look for danger, and turn danger into opportunity?

That's nonsense, danger is danger, if you can't make it through, you will die, and pursuing that stuff is purely brainless.

Those who deliberately pursue danger usually die early, and only a few lucky ones can be screened out.

No matter what kind of genius you are, you can only rely on luck at that time.

But what the grand masters don't want is good luck, good luck has a fart.

But there is no way. There must be many reasons for a genius to grow up.

After a day——

Zhu Fengdan's head floated in the air and said: "The last question, the reincarnation of the mighty, how can we be sure that it is me? After suicide reincarnation, why don't they worry that they will become another person?"

Li Qi was taken aback.

Yes.

In reincarnation, the continuity of the physical body is broken.

In other words... spiritual entities really exist?
Reincarnation, is to abandon the physical entity, choose the spiritual entity, and then obtain the second physical entity?

But... reincarnation also has the mystery of the womb, and will lose memory...

Li Qi fell into deep thought again.

Zhu Fengdan looked at Li Qi whose eyes were bloodshot and dejected all over his body, and shouted loudly: "Okay, don't look like that, I won't be responsible if you die here in a while, what do you want to do so much? If you get your own answer in one day, I will give you my head as a ball, get out of here, go back and think about it slowly!"

After hearing Zhu Fengdan's loud shout, Li Qi raised his head, his mind became clearer.

He reluctantly got up, saluted and said, "Many... Thank you teacher, I'll think about it when I go back..."

Zhu Fengdan's head turned around Li Qi irritably: "What are you thinking? It's useless to think so much. These are just introductions. Do you understand the introduction? You are only in your thirties, and you really want to reach the sky? If you don't care, These things are just a bunch of crap, and if you think about it, these things are your reminders."

"Empty your mind, go eat a meal, change your clothes, and then, get the hell out of here!"

(End of this chapter)