Daming Town Haiwang

Chapter 793, the problem of grassland population

Hearing Emperor Hongzhi's question, Liu Jin naturally knew what Emperor Hongzhi was thinking at this time. After thinking for a while, he said, "I just thought about what will happen in the grassland decades, a hundred years, or even hundreds of years later."

"Oh, yes, let's hear it."

When Emperor Hongzhi heard it, he immediately understood that Liu Jin was changing the subject, which was exactly what he wanted.

Let these civil servants worry about it and talk about other things first.

"Your Majesty, the grassland is included in our Ming territory and has close contacts with our interior. Through trade, grassland herdsmen can easily obtain a large amount of food, salt, tea, and other necessities for life."

"Coupled with the absence of war and turmoil, the population of this grassland will continue to expand in the future. Today, the grassland is vast and boundless, and the total number of herdsmen may not be one million, but in the next twenty, fifty, or one hundred What year?"

"Maybe there will be [-] million or [-] million herdsmen on the grassland. What kind of huge impact will it bring to our Ming Dynasty?"

Liu Jin came here this time mainly to discuss with Emperor Hongzhi about relocating the grassland people to Australia and South Golden Continent.

There is no need to migrate too much at one time, a certain proportion of the population is migrated out every year, and it is persisted for many years to maintain the population of the grassland at a certain scale and number.

This can not only maintain the stability of the grassland, but also control the number of population and livestock. It can maintain the environment of the grassland and prevent large-scale desertification like later generations.

As for the expedition to the Western Regions, is this very important?
It doesn't matter whether it is earlier or later. For Daming, the meat of the Western Regions can be eaten at any time, and it is easy to defeat. The real test is to have a long-term stable rule.

Hearing Liu Jin's words, everyone immediately looked at Liu Jin. When everyone was discussing whether to attack the Western Regions, Liu Jin was already thinking about the northern grasslands, the Western Regions decades, and hundreds of years later. .

At the same time, everyone immediately realized the importance of what Liu Jin said.

How can the population of the grassland continue to increase rapidly like the Central Plains, and the consequences can be imagined with a toe. By then, Da Ming will be able to control the grassland with ease like now?

"Go on."

Emperor Hongzhi thought for a while, and motioned Liu Jin to continue.

"Your Majesty, gentlemen~"

"The grassland in my north is very vast. Please look at the map. From the Great Wall to the north, to this vast area, it basically belongs to the grassland area, and the area is so vast."

"But since ancient times, the number of people living on this vast land has always been very small, and the number of grassland people in the entire north is around one million."

"It's hard to imagine such a vast area with a population of only one million."

"But this is the status quo on the grassland. The land is vast and sparsely populated. The herdsmen live by water and grass. There are few people, and there are more cows and horses than people."

Liu Jin came to the huge map and began to explain to the map.

After everyone listened, they also nodded. The Ming government has already counted the herdsmen on the grassland. The current total number of herdsmen in the grassland province is not even a million, and the total is only more than half a million. million.

"In such a vast area, why is the population always so sparse?"

"There are many factors, among which there are several most important factors. One is that the grassland people are nomadic people who live by grazing and need a lot of pasture for grazing."

"A few acres of land in our pass is enough to feed a family, but on the grasslands, hundreds of acres or even thousands of acres of grassland may not be enough for a herdsman's family to graze."

"Their way of life determines that they need a lot of pastures, and it also determines that their population is difficult to grow."

"The second is war. Since ancient times, grassland people have always liked to rob, not only against us Ming Dynasty, but also among their various tribes. In addition, in the vast areas such as the Western Regions, they invaded a large number of countries and regions. .”

"The long-term war, on the one hand, created their sturdy habits, and on the other hand, it caused a large number of their people to die in the war."

"In addition, the grassland people's medical skills are very poor. When they get sick, they often don't have a doctor to see them, and they can only resign themselves to their fate. This also leads to their very high mortality rate."

"Of course, the weather on the grassland is cold in winter. Under the freezing weather, a large number of cattle, sheep and horses will die. Once there is such extreme weather as Baimaofeng, a large number of herdsmen will starve to death in the coming year."

"These factors have made it difficult to increase the population of grassland people, which has remained at this number since ancient times."

Liu Jin first analyzed the reasons for the sparse population of grasslands.

After listening to Liu Jin's analysis, everyone immediately nodded, and they understood why the population of grassland people was always very small.

"Now that the grassland is included in our territory of Ming Dynasty, Your Majesty is benevolent and considers the grassland people as his own people, and treats them generously. A large amount of food, supplies, doctors, etc. are supported on the grassland. Even if there is a white hair wind on the grassland, the grassland Herders can still survive."

"There are also medical clinics opened by people in small towns on the grasslands that can treat the grasslands, which improves their survival rate. In addition to the absence of wars, the population of the grasslands will inevitably increase rapidly in the future."

"Once the population increases sharply, it will definitely not be a good thing for our Ming Dynasty."

"Let's not talk about whether it will cause them to betray my Ming Dynasty, just because of the sudden increase in the population of the grassland, it will inevitably require more cattle, sheep and horses to meet their needs."

"But we all know that an ordinary family of herdsmen on the grassland needs hundreds of acres, thousands of acres, or even tens of thousands of acres of grassland to meet their grazing needs."

"Under the situation of inconvenient land, the population growth and the number of grazing cattle and sheep will increase, which will inevitably lead to the degradation of the pastures on the grassland, and the competition will be fierce, and it will have unimaginable consequences for my Ming Dynasty."

"For example, if the pastures are overgrazed and turned into deserts, the herdsmen can't live without pastures. Then they will be the same as the victims of the famine in our customs. There will be wars and riots."

Liu Jin described to everyone what will happen on the grassland in the future.

In the grasslands of later generations, with the population explosion, the grasslands degenerated due to wanton grazing, and the desert continued to expand, so that extremely serious sandstorms appeared in the northern imperial capital.

Hearing this, the faces of Emperor Hongzhi and the ministers finally changed. This is not alarmist talk, but something that is very likely to happen in the future under reasonable reasoning.

Once the herdsmen on the grassland cannot survive and rise up, the consequences will be much more serious.

The reason why the herdsmen on the prairie are very honest now is that they have been hit hard one after another, and their population is sparse, many of them are still children.

The second is that the military strength of the Ming Dynasty is strong, and the [-] cavalry on the grassland are training, and they are so powerful that they dare not have any thoughts; the most important thing is that their life is much, much better than before.

Who would let go of a good life but insist on beheading?

Who is this Khan and not Khan?
Whether it is the Ming emperor or the former little prince, as long as everyone can live a good life, everyone will support it. On the contrary, if everyone does not have a good life, everyone will naturally oppose it.

In fact, people are all the same, and there is no big difference. If you have a good life, no one will follow you to do beheadings, let alone the premise that it is impossible to succeed.

"Then what should we do?"

Liu Jian thought for a while and asked immediately.

"It's very simple. Control the population on the grassland so that the herdsmen on the grassland can always maintain the current scale."

Liu Jin replied immediately.

"Control the population?"

"How to control?"

Emperor Hongzhi also hurriedly asked.

"There are two ways to control the population, one is to reduce the population, and the other is to immigrate!"

"It is obviously unrealistic to reduce the number of people, and the only thing left is immigration."

"Australia has a vast amount of land, the Golden Continent also has a large amount of land, and the African side also has a large amount of land. In addition, the Eurasian continent is so vast. As long as we can conquer it, there can also be a large amount of land. We are too far away, and we Han people may not be willing to emigrate there, but we can let these grassland herdsmen migrate there and guard the frontier for us."

On the map, Liu Jin pointed to vast areas such as Australia, Golden Continent, Africa, Central Asia, and Europe.

The world is very big. In some places, if there are too many people on the grassland, they will be moved out, and they will be sent to various parts of the world continuously, so as to reduce the pressure on the northern grassland and expand the territory for Ming Dynasty.

"Cut down?"

"migrant?"

Emperor Hongzhi pondered for a while and said, "Immigrate overseas, and they will form a powerful force overseas, and they will pose a threat to my Ming Dynasty."

"Your Majesty, there is absolutely no need to worry about this."

"The world is huge. Australia alone is not as small as ours. Such a vast place is enough for thousands of people to graze."

"The same is true for Golden Continent and Africa. These places have very high-quality pastures, which are very suitable for grazing."

"And when we go overseas, even if the population increases in the future, it will not pose a threat to our Ming Dynasty. Will they still build ships to attack our Ming Dynasty?"

"They are cavalry on the grassland, but what if they go to the sea?"

"Can they still ride horses to fight naval battles?"

"What's more, when we immigrate them, we can also mix them with our Han immigrants, and at the same time change their nomadic way, from nomadic to sedentary grazing, demarcate pastures, and settle them down."

"I think as long as this policy is implemented, not only will we not have to worry about them posing a threat to our Ming Dynasty, but after a few hundred years, they will probably be no different from the Han people in our pass."

"Besides grazing around the world, the number of cattle and sheep they grazing can greatly increase. At that time, it will not only meet the needs of the people of our Ming Dynasty for meat, but also produce more wool to meet the needs of our Daming textile industry. "

"The most important thing is that the herdsmen on the grasslands are tough. Where they are, our Ming Dynasty's rule will be more stable. We don't even need to expand the territory on purpose. Wherever they graze, they can become The territory of my Great Ming."

Liu Jin thought for a while and said.

Even on the grasslands, there is no way to dig out the waves. Are the immigrants afraid that they will find the waves when they go overseas?
This immigrant went to Australia and lived for hundreds of years. Even if there were millions of prairie people in Australia, would they still be able to return to Daming on horseback?
Let's have a good time, but who will rebel?

What's more, let alone hundreds of years, in a few decades, with the development of Ming capital and new technology, nomads will have nothing to fear.

The era of war horses and scimitars is gradually coming to an end, and the next era is the era of giant ships and cannons, so there is no need to worry about this problem at all.

Moving them out is also to protect the grasslands in the north and prevent desertification, not to worry about how much impact they will have on Daming.

With the current strength of Ming Dynasty, coupled with the road of capitalism, the development of technology and industrialization, there is no need to worry about these at all.

It is naturally the best to graze me honestly, and if there is any disagreement, Daming can easily press it down.

"Immigrate overseas?"

Even though I fell into deep thought and thought about it, it seemed that this was indeed a good way.

The excess population has been relocated overseas, and a certain number has always been controlled, so naturally there will be no problems.

"Your Majesty, I think what Liu Jin said is reasonable."

"Just like the Western Regions, it's easy for Ming Dynasty to conquer the Western Regions, but if we want to rule the Western Regions for a long time, we must not only migrate a large number of Han Chinese to the Western Regions, but also continuously reduce the original grassland people in the Western Regions, so as to achieve long-term stability."

Xie Qian stood up and expressed his support.

However, I did not forget to remind Emperor Hongzhi about the Western Regions. It is very easy to conquer the Western Regions. As for the long-term rule, it is almost the same as the grassland.

Migrating the Han people and relocating the original people from the Western Regions, in short, is to change the population structure, so that the rule here can be consolidated for a long time.

"Your Majesty, what Liu Jin said is very reasonable, but if we move the grassland people to Australia, to the Golden Continent, will they be willing to move out?"

Li Dongyang thought for a while and said, "Will it be because of this that they will be forced to turn against them?"

"Forced them?"

"It's better to deal with it now than later, not to mention they don't dare to do it at all."

Liu Jin said very confidently.

How many people are left on the grassland?
There are not many men left, only some old and weak women and children, how dare they oppose Daming?

If decades pass, maybe they really dare to rebel. Now, if Daming wants them to go east, they will definitely not dare to go west.

　Mite Qing’s policy of reducing cadres on the grasslands is really ruthless~
　　
　
(End of this chapter)