Xinshun 1730

Chapter 790 The Conflict of Old and New Interests ([-])
The naval officer was aggrieved and said: "Jinghou, I have also read history books. In my opinion, this method of Wang Jinggong is not bad."

"Young crops loan, free people from worrying about usury. I think the exemption law is similar to the one-whip law. Pay money and hire people to do corvee. It's normal to spend money to hire people to do things."

"Now the imperial court doesn't have enough money, and the corvee refuses to pay more. If you want me to say, it's better to just increase taxes."

"Nowadays it is obvious that money is not enough, but the imperial court insists on the name of benevolence and righteousness. Could it be that the higher-ups don't know what's going on below? I don't think so."

"According to me, it's time to change the law..."

Yin of the Songjiang Mansion at the side said in his heart, the people around the Marquis Jing are indeed all newborn calves who are not afraid of tigers.Now it is true that the Marquis of Whale has received the holy family. Many people around him talk like this, which shows that he has been arrogant for a long time.

But to say that this method... is really not necessarily good.

It should only be said that ten taxes are one-third, and only one-third of the national treasury is paid, and the remaining two-thirds acquiesce in corruption. Will the grassroots not apportion randomly?
There is no end to the greed of the human heart?
But to say that the imperial court's tax is too low, so that the local government really has no money to do things, and has to raise taxes by itself, that can't be said that there is no such thing.

The imperial court does not allocate money, and the amount allocated is often not enough, and the local governments do not raise taxes themselves, so what should we do?
The higher-ups slapped their heads all day long, just like after the banning of religion a few years ago, because they couldn't do what they could not do before the banning of religion, especially the matter of abandoned babies.In the huge Songjiang Mansion, the household government allocated 400 taels of silver, what is enough for it?Just don't be greedy, how many people can the 400 taels of silver save?

There is also this post station, why did Emperor Taizu of Dashun get into trouble, and what did he do? Of course, the imperial court attached great importance to the post station.

However, the wages are enough, and theoretically there are entertainment expenses, but when officials pass by, their family members are not included in the entertainment expenses. Is it true that the officials should pay for the car and horse bearers?

Definitely out of place.

The imperial court sat there and gave a rule that no abuse is allowed.Don't even think about it, is it possible?

If everyone is Hai Gangfeng, who dare not give face?When the time comes, a high-ranking official will come and wear a small shoe for the local official, where will he cry?

The group of people in the imperial court calculated with their abacus and felt that the money was enough.

It can be said that many ministers started from the local government. Is it true that they don't know the difference between theory and reality?

Thinking of this, the governor of Songjiang Prefecture said: "Jinghou, in fact, what the general said is correct. I dare not say anything else, but this Songjiang Prefecture can try it out."

"Firstly, it's easy to hire people here; secondly, if the eleventh tax can really be implemented, it will indeed reduce the burden on the people; thirdly, Songjiang has a lot of new learning, which can recruit officials. Now we all know that working in the customs has a high salary. Then this The recruited officials will first do the tax collection and food collection, and if they do well, they can move to the customs or those trade-related places, which is also a kind of assessment.”

"The national class may remain unchanged, or slightly increased. The rest will be reserved for local use. The matter of additional assignments will be strictly investigated."

"Just like the beginning of Wang Jinggong's reform, in one prefecture and one prefecture, as long as you put your heart into it, it is completely good governance, and the people praise it. Jinghou was in Wendeng Prefecture that day, and he also supported the local state pastoral reform."

"I don't want to spread it across the country, but only in Songjiang Prefecture. I am confident that I can still do a good job."

Liu Yu said with a smile: "You are also a Langguan, so why can't you just write the letter? You are so thoughtful and quick."

Songjiang Fuyin chuckled, he couldn't compare with you.You are following the route of military honors, and I will still be in the local area from now on, and I will have to deal with those gentry.This kind of matter of cutting people's money, if I bring it up, it will be difficult to gain a foothold in the future.

On the contrary, you are a whale. If you have too many lice, you will not itch, and if you have too many debts, you will not worry. Anyway, the gentry hate you, so what are you afraid of?

At that time, the imperial court ordered the Songjiang Mansion to try it out, and I will only follow the order.But if I take the initiative to try it, then the snowflake-like complaint letter will fly to the court, I am not like you, I can't bear it.

After the Governor of Songjiang laughed, he sighed and said, "Whale Hou knows, once this matter is brought up, how much trouble will it cause?"

"Gentlemen are exempted, but the national tax that is exempted is really nothing. Let alone gentry, it is ordinary people. If they really pay taxes according to the court regulations, and receive 0.03 taels of silver per mu of land, is it possible that they can't afford it?"

"The main thing is service and apportionment. Service, errand, this is really a matter of decency. It is said that everyone has to serve. Didn't the previous dynasty discuss similar things? As a result, the former cabinet member who has returned to his hometown directly said: Then I will go directly to escort the food to the capital, and let the emperor see that I, an old minister, is still serving..."

"It's not respectable, I'm just talking about more practical things. The gentry really pay thirty one tax. Can the rest be shared on their heads?"

"It's like the official is a local prominent family, and there are still officials in the family. The official has 1000 acres of land. According to the tax law, he only needs to pay 30 taels of silver. Jinghou thinks, can I care about the 30 taels of silver? The rest will be paid extra. , distribution, do you dare to spread it on my head?"

"I abide by the law and do not evade taxes. I have 1000 acres of land, and I need 30 taels of silver?"

"But the problem is, if we pay ten and one tax, and one mu of land is charged one penny, I have to pay 1000 taels of silver for my 100 mu of land. Can this be the same?"

"If you really want to implement ten and one tax, this is the real gentry who pays food and errands as a whole. And if it is still thirty tax one, with policies at the top and countermeasures at the bottom, it can be fooled. If you really implement ten taxes and one, It's hard to fool, if this is digging the root of the world's gentry."

"This kind of thing, I really can't handle it with my stature. You have to come forward."

Liu Yu understood the logic of this as soon as he heard it, and couldn't help but sighed and smiled bitterly: "Damn it, what is this called? A tax cut of [-]% is an evil government, and a tax increase to [-]% is actually a benevolent government." gone?"

Governor Songjiang said: "Although it sounds unreasonable, it is true."

"It is said in the previous dynasty: The family of food and salary is equal to the noble and the humble, and those who tend to serve and serve are the affairs of the common people. If a virtuous gentleman honors his body and returns to his family, then there is no difference between a gentleman and a savage. It is not the way of persuading scholars to treat the virtuous. Since today, Baisi sees the family of an official, and those who have land are exempted from corvee, except for rent and tax."

"Since there is a difference between high and low, it is normal for gentry to be exempted from corvee. In theory, land tax is unavoidable. In the past, the tax rate of many lands in Henan was only one cent per mu of land. 0.01 taels. Jinghou also knows, Even if this acre of land produces a stone of rice and wheat, it can still earn seven or eight renminbi, even if there is no tax evasion, it is not worth mentioning."

"But now, the tax has to be increased, and then the pre-tax employment is used. You know, there is no loophole for this. Not to mention, it also means that the preferential treatment of exemption from service is gone."

"Since the common people and the gentry are exempted from service, where is the difference between high and low? And the burden on the gentry is three times heavier than before, and they must be hated to the bone."

"You talk about small peasants. If you can really implement only one tax without increasing the increase, not to mention one tax per ten, one tax per eight, one tax per five, they will all call good governance. The people rule the world."

"I don't know about other places, but I know that this Songjiang mansion is because of Chen Youliang and Zhang Shicheng's affairs in the previous dynasty. The Songjiang mansion paid heavy taxes. When the three rates were increased, the national tax was over, and in theory it was only one penny and two cents. But In fact, with the increase after the national tax is over, ordinary people have to pay three or even four renminbi of tax per mu of land.”

"That's why the official said that once this matter is mentioned, something big will happen. I really dare not mention it. In fact, the official has thought about it, but..."

He hesitated for a moment, and then said: "Chao Cuo can die, but what if Wei Changping and Huo Guanjun are the ones offering the advice? Besides, a villain who is the size of a sesame mung bean in Songjiang, how dare he compare to Chao Cuo?"

The huge contrast between reality and theory made Liu Yu sigh.Low taxes are bad governance, and tax increases are good governance. The strange reality made Liu Yu feel powerless. For a while, he just felt destroyed. It would be a hundred times easier to overthrow it and start over.

"If you try it in Songjiang Mansion, are you sure you can make it?"

Resisting the overwhelming thoughts that suddenly surged up in his heart, the governor of Songjiang Mansion said: "It's hard to know how to do it. But if you want to do it, you can only try it in Songjiang Mansion first."

"If not, once it is done, the gentry will inevitably increase rents, causing public dissatisfaction to boil, and even the people to riot. At that time, when the time comes, a picture of refugees will be shown, and this evil administration of tax increases will have to be abolished. Won't Jinghou also implicated?"

"However, Songjiang Mansion is different. If they dare to do this, the common people may not rise up. Whether they come to work or go to Nanyang, they will not be able to make a fuss. Besides, is it possible that they will farm the land by themselves? At that time, they will have to surrender After renting the seeds, ask people to come back to plant them in order to collect the rent?"

"Your official is also thinking of the marquis. If you do it elsewhere, you have to make a big deal. But if you are in Songjiang Mansion, I still have the confidence to do a good job."

Liu Yu nodded, thinking that was indeed the case.However, another officer next to him said: "But this rent-holding system, I think it's not bad. The premise of this rent-holding system is that the regular tax is low, and the gentry can avoid miscellaneous taxes and labor. That's why there is a state of buying land and asking for tenants. If the regular tax is high, the rent money must rise. The annual regular tax must also be paid by the renter.”

Liu Yu hummed, but didn't directly agree or disagree.I think that any policy is very complicated, both pros and cons, future impact, and class interests must be considered.

This ultimately fell to the ultimate ideal of the court or the government.

The imperial court had to have a goal, and based on this goal, it was possible to judge whether the policy was good or bad.

Close to the target is a good policy.

Far from the target, is bad policy.

The key lies in this goal. Without a goal, it is impossible to evaluate the quality of the policy itself.

"Forget it, I'll think about the countryside, farmers, and agriculture. Now I should go to the city to see those handicraft workers and machine workers. See what they expect or think. "

"As for whether the tax system will be changed, there is always one premise. That is, to protect the industry and commerce of Songjiang Prefecture, everything is based on the industry and commerce of Songjiang Prefecture. When you can't have both fish and bear's paws, first think clearly in your heart whether you want fish or bears." Palm."

"As for other places, I don't want to worry about it for the time being. Let's see. Let's go."

(End of this chapter)