Xinshun 1730

Chapter 709 Who took the most advantage?

"Back to Holland?"

The deputy commander of the fleet was a little surprised by this, thinking that we are surrendered prisoners of war, if we are not released back to the Netherlands, will we go to jail?

You even have battleships, and your naval gunnery is much stronger than that of the Dutch fleet. What do we need?

"Lord Marquis, you should know that we all came to the East to make a fortune. How will Lord Marquis dispose of our private property? If your country wants to occupy the entire Southeast Asia, how will my property be counted?"

As company employees, these captains are still very concerned about their assets in Batavia.

Liu Yu said that the East India Company will go bankrupt, this is not a joke.

Isn't the East India Company without the East Indies an empty shell?
It is impossible to support 18% annual interest by lending. To pay 18% annual interest means that the loan must have at least 20% interest. So it is so easy to lend such a large amount of usury?

These captains came to the East just to make a fortune, and there were basically no other reasons.Now the company is about to collapse, and the stocks in their hands have become waste paper. Those assets in Batavia are the foundation for them to still be in the middle and upper class when they return to the Netherlands.

The officers around Liu Yu thought these Dutchmen were very interesting. After losing the battle, they still want personal property?What are these people thinking?This is completely different from Dashun's rules.

But Liu Yu said: "It's also simple. Of course, your personal belongings will not be moved. But things like land are not yours at all. Have you worked on the land? You have increased the value of the land from wasteland. A plantation? Apparently not. Estates, real estate, of course, would be confiscated."

"Actually, you know it very well. Batavia was built by the Chinese. As for the silver coins, paintings, and handicrafts, I will definitely return them to you."

"Besides, you looted so many people in the Zhoushan Islands and Penghu, at least 10 Chinese died because of Batavia. Back then, 40 British people died on Ambon Island, and you paid 4. The Chinese Eight thousand, according to the price of 3 per person, you have to pay 2000 million dong. I didn’t calculate the compensation with you, but I gave you enough face. You have to go back and talk to the company’s board of directors about the kindness and tolerance of the Chinese government .”

The deputy commander of the fleet thought, nonsense, you want it, but do you want it?When Cromwell asked for compensation for the Ambon massacre, it was because the British fleet could point at Amsterdam.

Now you have occupied Southeast Asia. If you don’t occupy Southeast Asia and use Batavia as a threat to pay compensation, the company may pay.But you have to occupy the entire Southeast Asia, and you want to bankrupt the company, compensation?The board of directors is not stupid, you don't return to Southeast Asia, and you don't have the ability to drive the gunboat to the Amstel River, so why lose money?
However, when it comes to the self-interest of these captains, they are quite satisfied with Liu Yu's handling.

For things like land and real estate, I didn't expect that Dashun would give them discounted compensation after occupying Batavia.

Personal chattels and cash, if they can be kept, they can live a relatively stable life when they return to the Netherlands.If you have a better vision and invest in some stocks, you can still maintain a decent life for the middle and upper classes.

Although knowing that what Liu Yu said about compensating the Chinese slave laborers looted in the past is nonsense, thinking about his own private property, it is better to boast a few more words, and they all said: "We will remember the kindness of the heavenly kingdom. .Then when will Lord Marquis plan to let us go back to Holland?"

Liu Yu said with a smile: "The release is definitely going to be released. But it must not be now. Firstly, the Celestial Dynasty has a tradition of offering captives in great victories, so you have to go to the capital; secondly, I need to show the Celestial Dynasty to the European countries. The level of armaments, this also requires you to witness with your own eyes how I took back Nanyang."

"I said before that your company looked down on China. It neither attacked Weihaiwei ten years ago nor expanded its military preparations. What does this prove? This proves that European countries do not have a correct understanding of China's level of force."

"How can this work? If you can't correctly understand the level of force of the Celestial Dynasty, some follow-up negotiations will not be able to proceed. Maybe your board of directors is still thinking about taking back Nanyang. I don't like wars, so it's best to let you Let’s see how I destroyed Batavia and Malacca, and when you go back, the board of directors will have a clear understanding so as not to make wrong decisions.”

Speaking of this, Liu Yu mocked very simply: "I have always been skeptical about the judgment of your company's board of directors. Such a good start can make the company look like this; the crisis in the sugar industry, ten years ago It just surfaced that the board of directors couldn't even see...their pathetic and ridiculous judgment, and I worry that they will make wrong decisions such as taking back Nanyang."

That's what he said, but in fact Liu Yu was not worried about the East India Company's move to retake Nanyang.

The main thing is to show off your muscles to the East India Company: tell the East India Company that Dashun can cover the entire Southeast Asia, monopolize all the supply of goods in Southeast Asia, and guarantee that it can stop the erosion of countries such as Britain and France.I suggest that you cooperate well with the Celestial Dynasty, and everyone can earn money from the common people in Europe and America.

It's just that these words, to these captains, sound a bit murderous.

After all defeats, you still want to follow through the whole process?As a full-time participant, to see with your own eyes that the company's foundation that has been operating in Southeast Asia for more than 100 years has been uprooted?
This feeling is like being forced to watch how my girlfriend is taken over by others.That's not enough, after watching the whole process, I have to write my experience, telling myself that I can't compare, I can't beat, be honest, and don't think about revenge.

I have to say that this made these Dutch officers feel humiliated.Liu Yu said again: "My siege method is learned from Marshal Vauban. When he attacked all the way to Amsterdam, I just happened to use the new siege method specially developed to deal with your Dutch bastion tactics. Beat you Dutch."

"I heard from Hannibal that Marshal Vauban likes to find a group of visitors when he is attacking the city. I should also maintain this tradition. At that time, not only you, but also the kings of the Southeast Asian countries , chiefs, sultans, and Lord Buddha. If they don’t understand the beauty of the Celestial Empire’s combat power, you can explain it to them.”

Obviously, this was a preparation to formally turn Nanyang into a sphere of influence, and let those small countries witness the defeat of the Dutch, so that they could quickly accept the changes in reality and become a tributary state of Dashun.

Since he couldn't even beat the Dutchman, then Dashun, who beat the Dutchman away, naturally couldn't beat the Dutchman.This is the reason that 1 is less than 2, so it must be less than 10.

When Liu Yu made the plan, he told everyone: Ceylon can surrender if he can, and he doesn’t need to show it to others, and no one will; Do it well for others to see.

For Dashun, winning has never been a problem.

But war is a continuation of politics, and the follow-up political issues are the most difficult problems.

No matter what the imperial court's future policy on Nanyang is, let's show our force first and suppress the ambitions of these small countries. Liu Yu estimates that if the fight is a little fancy, it will last for at least three to fifty years.

At this time, the deputy commander of the Dutch fleet had confirmed that Dashun was really planning to uproot all the strongholds of the East India Company in Southeast Asia, and it was definitely not empty talk.It seems that if Dashun wants to fully take over the company's rule here, it may also inherit all the treaties signed by the company and the surrounding small countries.

He suddenly thought of a very crucial question, looked back at the coastline that was no longer visible in the distance, and asked, "Master Marquis, do you know the rebels around Batavia? I want to know, who are those people?" Do you support it? Or is it really the British who support it?"

Liu Yu glanced at the Dutchman with a half-smile, and asked in a bland tone: "Is there any difference? Do you think they have the support of the British just because they use brown bass?"

This sentence did not admit that Dashun was behind it, nor did it deny that Britain was behind it.

The deputy commander of the Dutch Fleet was stunned, and thought deeply about Liu Yu's words, thinking, yes, do you think those rebels are backed by the British just because they use brown bass guns?
Probably not.

The British and their competition in Southeast Asia have been around for too long.

During the trade in Guangzhou, Britain also fought openly and secretly with the Netherlands.

Travancore and other Indian states are also supported by the British East India Company.Ever since Britain and the Netherlands joined forces against Spain and Portugal in the first year of the Apocalypse, the two sides have been in fierce competition in Southeast Asia and South Asia.

Indeed, it wasn't just the brown bass used by the rebels that led the Dutch to suspect British support.

Liu Yu added another sentence: "Is there anyone who can drive a wedge between France and the Ottoman Empire? No, because they have no conflict of interest."

"And between you and Britain, it's very different from France and Turkey. Some things, what the truth behind them is, it doesn't matter."

The truth is the past, what has happened.

Since Liu Yu said that the truth is not important, the subtext is that the future is important.

The only thing the Dutch care about about the future of Southeast Asia is spices.

Dashun has no ability to sell spices to Europe, this point, the deputy commander of the Dutch fleet is very sure.

The Swedes and Danes mainly sell tea and silk, and their sales channels can only sell these.Even if Dashun supplies them, the Netherlands has the ability to rely on its sales channel network that has been in operation for more than a hundred years, making it difficult for them to ship.

Dashun needs an export partner.However, there are actually few companies that are capable of selling goods in the Americas and Western Europe.Most likely, it is the United Kingdom.

However, the relationship between Dashun and France is relatively close.The relationship between Liu Yu and the British was very tense, and the Lingdingyang incident clearly expressed Liu Yu's dislike of Britain.

Dashun may be able to obtain the spice producing areas in the entire Southeast Asia, and take over the spice monopoly... But, isn't this a waste of money for the British?

Finally, the deputy commander of the fleet kindly reminded Liu Yu.

"Master Marquis, please be careful of the British."

Since Liu Yu doesn't want to talk about the truth, the Dutch also feel that the truth is not important.To a certain extent, Dashun's journey to Nanyang was a loser who fattened at least two winners.

Dashun obtained the origin of the spices.

Dashun itself has export channels. The export of silk, tea, and porcelain has been going on for too long, and there are stable channels.

From the perspective of the Dutch, Dashun controlled the spices and did not worry about selling them.

At least, the Dutch at this time hadn't thought that Liu Yu's ambition would be so huge, not only to earn hard money, but also to earn money from the final sales side.

Whether or not the British were behind the rebel army in Batavia is the truth, and it doesn't matter now.

The important thing is that, from the perspective of the Dutch, the British achieved their purpose.No matter whether it is supported by the British or not.

The reason why the British may support the Chinese uprising in Batavia is to break the Dutch monopoly on spices and the stable position of the Netherlands in Southeast Asia.

If these Chinese rebels succeed, the British will be able to use various means to get the spices they have never been able to get.

Once there is a gap in the Dutch ruling system in Southeast Asia, British smugglers will surround them like sharks that have seen blood.

Now that Dashun has captured Southeast Asia, the British can get the goods no matter whether the Chinese rebel army is supported by the British or not.

In other words, the Dutch monopoly on the spice trade for 120 years was broken.

The purpose of the British has been achieved.

Then the process and the truth are really not important.

Unless Dashun won Nanyang, instead of selling spices, he destroyed the plantations and planted rice...

As long as Dashun is not stupid enough to flatten the plantations to plant rice and cassava; as long as Dashun sells spices, the British will be the ones who take the most advantage among all European countries.

On this point, the deputy commander of the Dutch fleet can still think clearly.

Countries like Sweden and Denmark don’t have very good sales channels; the French’s trade policy is extremely weird, and they are fighting tariff wars with other countries, and the level of smuggling is also bad; the Portuguese are far from what they used to be, and the British and Portuguese The trade treaty between Portugal has completely abolished Portuguese commerce; the Spaniards should first prove that they can catch the British smugglers running around before talking about trade.

After all the calculations, in the end, as long as Dashun sells spices, wouldn't the UK get a big deal?
The Dutch, especially the Dutch of the East India Company, were unwilling to let the British take advantage of it.

The Orange family used to be the king of England and fattened Britain with Dutch money. The merchants were dissatisfied with the Orange family.

Different from the perspective considered by the aristocratic elite in the Netherlands, the aristocratic elite in the Netherlands are worried about France because France has too much cultural advantage. If France occupies the Austrian Netherlands, the Netherlands is likely to be fully Frenchized, and it is extremely The big ones may become French vassals.

The opposition of the merchant elite against France had nothing to do with it, but mainly with the French policy of national industrialism and hyper-mercantilism.It made it impossible for merchants to sell their goods to France to make money.

But being against France doesn't mean they're supporting Britain.

Bankers and financial capital are indifferent to Britain and France.As long as interest is paid, who is not a loan?If Britain is strong, it is sure that it can pay back the interest, and of course it is willing to lend to the British.

But sea merchants are different.

Maritime merchants are very opposed to the British "Navigation Regulations", and there is very fierce competition between the East India Companies.

Almost subconsciously, the deputy commander of the Dutch fleet thought that the British had taken a big deal for nothing this time, and felt as disgusting as eating a fly.

Moreover, Britain could support the rebels against the Netherlands, but it would not support the rebels against Dashun.

Especially when it is still uncertain who will be the second-hand dealer in the spice trade in Dashun.

I'm afraid that when the time comes, the British will sell the rebels backhand, so as to show their favor to Dashun, in order to obtain the exclusive franchise of spices in Europe.

The British can definitely do this.

Of course, the main reason is that Dashun has at least eight battleships on display. It is unrealistic to dig Dashun's corner in Southeast Asia.

In North America, the British poached the corners of the French to buy furs from the Indian tribes controlled by the French. That was because the British had absolute command of the sea in North America.

There is no command of the sea in Southeast Asia, and Dashun monopolizes the supply of goods, and there are several companies that are capable of selling goods. The UK will never dare to copy what it did in North America.

The deputy commander of the Dutch fleet became more disgusted the more he thought about it. The British did not do anything, but became one of the two biggest beneficiaries.
That's all for Dashun, who sent troops and fought again.How disgusting is it for the British to take advantage of the cheap sales?
Liu Yu's answer was ambiguous, which made the deputy commander of the Dutch fleet even more suspicious that the dealer Dashun was looking for might be British.

Maybe some kind of agreement with the British?
For example, let the British give up Bengkulu, the only remaining British colony in Southeast Asia, and hand over the Philippines occupied by the British to Dashun, in exchange for the exclusive right to operate spices?

Will the British change?

After thinking about it, the British should change it.

In recent years, the Netherlands has basically squeezed out the Spaniards and Portuguese forces in Southeast Asia.

The British in Bengkulu occupy it, but they also come to disgust the Dutch, and the effect is not very good.At most, it is smuggling in a sneaky way, and the scale is not very large.

Now it seems that the Dashun Empire on the opposite side seems to hate European countries like them, and it is very likely that they also hope that the British will completely withdraw from Southeast Asia.

As for the Philippines, the British had just occupied Manila and were still at war with Spain.The British may return the Philippines to the Spaniards in exchange for other benefits.

On the one hand, it can create conflicts between Dashun and Spain: Dashun wants the whole of Southeast Asia, and Dashun also bans Catholicism, so he definitely doesn't like the fanatical Spaniards.

Second, if the right to resell spices can be obtained, the value of the Philippines is not great.The Philippines does not produce gold and silver, and the Spaniards have been in business for many years, so it is troublesome to get them.

The more I think about it, the more I feel that this is possible. After the deputy commander of the Dutch fleet reminded me, I hope to see what kind of attitude Liu Yu has towards the British.

(End of this chapter)