Xinshun 1730

Chapter 366 Mode Selection
"Of course. And a few little things."

"Anyone who has more than [-] taels of shares, without permission, goes to sea for two years and does not return, the shares will be confiscated."

"There is no decree of moving to Maoling in this dynasty, but those who have more than 3 taels of shares must live in Songjiang."

"All the ships and cannons of the trading company are not allowed to be built overseas. The trading company is not allowed to recruit non-Chinese sailors... All of these are not big things, so there is no need to mention them."

"You don't have to pay taxes in the future, you pay in one lump sum, you buy monopoly rights, and you can exempt import and export taxes as much as possible."

Compared with the first two conditions, the latter can really be regarded as minor problems.

Liu Yu joked again: "I wanted to suggest to the imperial court that those who benefit from the trading company's shareholding are prohibited from buying land, so as to prevent a large amount of gold and silver from flowing to the land instead of the industry and commerce. But the dog can't change eating shit, where is it not allowed?" Eat it or not? I thought about it for a long time, and if I don’t want it to eat shit, I have to get a piece of fatter meat, which is the solution to the root cause.”

It's not that the merchants can't tell the difference between good and bad, they know that it's not them who compare Liu Yu to a dog, but the gold and silver in their hands.

They also knew that Liu Yu didn't like to spend money in the direction of buying land and renting tenants, but they really couldn't control it. The profit of investing in hoarding land and renting tenants was too high, and the value was preserved for a long time, and the risk was small.

Let's look at Ming Dynasty's death and prosperity. Although the north is equal to the land without grain, the south is still the same. The land belongs to the old owner and is difficult to shake.Although the Huangzhuang was destroyed and the vassal kings were eliminated, the land deeds lasted forever, even though he was in Xishun in the Ming and Qing Dynasties.

Since Liu Yu said that there may be fatter meat, several businessmen have some knowledge of Liu Yu's methods, and they are quite confident in their hearts.

Even if the biggest dream of being a businessman is to transform into a local owner and test for fame, I have actually seen some new gadgets in these years. I am not sure that there are any new workshops that can make more profits than buying land.

"Everyone, the condition is just such a condition, and there should be no more. If you have any ideas, you might as well tell them."

The merchants whispered to each other for a while, buzzing like a bunch of flies, although they all knew the dialect, but it still gave Liu Yu enough face, they didn't mutter there in Jiangsu, Zhejiang and Wu dialects, but used Mandarin as much as possible.

Liu Yu drank from the wine glass on his own, trying not to put pressure on these businessmen. After waiting for a while, Lin Yunwen came forward and said a few words.

"My lord, this condition is not unacceptable."

"There is only one thing. If we are obedient, we will build Western ships and train sailors... But if the imperial court waved his hand in the future and said that we competed with the people for profit and let the trade be free. Then if they let it go, they don't need to build thick If there is no need to train sailors, the freight cost must be lower than ours.”

"We will not be able to compete at that time, and we will be accused of being incompetent in competing with the people for monopoly, and the public opinion of the Confucian Association will be one-sided... We will be miserable. The nobles of the capital can participate or withdraw their shares. At that time, they will make it cheap The lucky boat, with cheaper sailors, we have no place to cry."

"So, please give us an accurate statement, or can the court write it down clearly in black and white?"

This is what businessmen are most worried about. These conditions can be agreed, but the premise is that equal power must also be ensured.

They contribute money and people, and may even participate in the future confrontation between the imperial court and the Dutch. As a result, after they are used up, they will directly dismantle or allow private businessmen to go to sea. It's about to die.

It's just that their request made Liu Yu feel a little ridiculous.

Dan Shu iron coupons may not be useful, black and white as a fart?

If you really have the ability, use violence to beat yourself into the ruling class.

If you don't have that ability, even if the court gives black and white, can't you tear it up at any time?
Always thinking about the imperial court's kindness and trustworthiness, Feila is really unbearable.

But you can't say this at this time, otherwise you will be inciting businessmen to rebel.

The key to this matter still lies in the circle of nobles in the capital, and his attitude as a guarantor and lubricant.

It seems that many conditions have been added to the monopoly power of the trading company, like preventing thieves, but in fact it has loosened the chains on the merchant class.

The merchant's political power is too weak, and he needs to find a big tree.

Civil servants are not hereditary, policies change frequently, and there are many incidents of death and political resignation. Support today and oppose tomorrow.The best big tree is to bind the interests of those hereditary nobles to maintain the continuity of the policy.

It is impossible for Dashun to allow VOC and BEIC to appear in Dashun, a trading company with power, money, army, warships, tax collection and government establishment.

So if you want to learn, Dashun is actually more suitable for the Spanish model.The government and the great nobles dominate, and the merchants don't want to participate because the military obligations are too heavy.

Spain is out of play because Spain has no points for its own country's industrial and commercial level.

Spain used to have a golden mountain, and it was easy to dig it when it was short of money; Dashun also had a "golden mountain", but this golden mountain was Dashun's handicraft industry.

If Spain has the level of handicraft industry in Dashun Jiangsu Province at this time, its colonial and trade policies will not be able to escape, but will flourish.I have no idea about the level of handicraft industry in my own country, so I introduced some bills prohibiting foreign goods from going to the colonies. If they can be implemented, I will see the devil.

The Guanyinghe model is not bad, but unrealistic. Liu Yu can only dance in shackles when he is in court.

No matter how enlightened Emperor Dashun was, he was still a feudal emperor, and it was impossible to allow a behemoth with an army, money, political power, and overseas territories.

The businessmen represented by Lin Yunwen are not worried that the gentry will grab food in the future, but that the nobles will kick the businessmen away in the future and throw them away after use.

For example, when the imperial court directly releases competition, the stock price will plummet. At that time, the nobles will be able to spend money to buy it with a little trick.

It is not "fair" for trading companies to open up competition because of the high cost of military obligations to reserve sailors and armed merchant ships.

If those jealous people rush forward, saying that they are competing with the people for profit, they will have no choice but to surrender at that time.

The merchants had a long way to think about this matter, but their strength was still far behind, and they never thought about the idea of ​​"If you dare to break the contract, I will kill you in the Forbidden City to force you to admit it". .

Liu Yu also knew that he was not a good guarantor. Although he had some face and reputation, his persuasive power was not so strong.

"Everyone, there is a saying, the cunning rabbit dies, the lackey cooks; the tall bird is exhausted, the good bow is hidden. This time Yoniko Ming came back from Sweden, you should also know how much profit the Western trade has in hand, right?"

"Let's put it bluntly. The Han Dynasty was only 400 years old, and the Ming Dynasty was only [-] years old. The foundations of the previous dynasties have not made such a long-term plan. You may not be thinking too far."

"Why do you want you to agree to those two conditions when the imperial court insists? If it's just to attack the Japanese kingdom, don't you think about it, do you need so many reserve sailors? If you worry about this at this time, it is really unfounded."

This is really not a promise, but it can be regarded as a kind of wonderful comfort.

The businessmen looked at me and I looked at you, seeing the huge interests of the monopoly power behind them, they finally laughed.

I thought that was indeed the case, Youdao was Wang Xietang’s Qianyan in the old days, flying into the homes of ordinary people, not to mention dynasties, even the seven clans and five surnames back then, no more than hundreds of years, and there is really no need to think about things that are too far away.

The ancients said that the wealth of a gentleman will be cut off in five generations, and that the wealth is no more than three. Now there is really no need to think about things that are too far away.

He also thought that if the imperial court really wanted to open up, it would not be necessary to hide the bow if the birds were not exhausted. The Western Ocean is tens of thousands of miles away.
Listening to the two conditions proposed by Liu Yu on behalf of the court, the merchants also understood the purpose of the court.

Needless to say, the requisition of ships is necessary to build Western-style soft sailing ships, and it is also for the purpose of training sailors in large numbers.

If you only rely on the navy for training, you will have to spend military pay.

But if trading companies and maritime merchants train them, they can be directly recruited during wartime, and the military will be paid after the war. When there is no war, the salaries of the sailors will be paid by the maritime merchants.

This is not just pure commerce and gold and silver, but involves the future strategy of the imperial court.

As long as the imperial court's strategy is still to expand externally, merchants feel that they are safe and valued by the imperial court;

Overseas expansion, they should be the most supportive.

The merchants discussed for a while, and then said: "Sir, since you say so, we must obey. If we want to build a ship, I think it is better to build a big ship. A big ship like the Spaniards is the best."

"Today it can be used for trade with Japan, and tomorrow it may also be used for Western trade. If it is ocean-going, the cost is a little higher, but you can plan ahead, and some opportunities are fleeting. When you really have the opportunity to open up trade, But there is no big ship that can sail long distances, isn't that regrettable?"

Liu Yu saw that they were very good, and praised: "Well said, I think so too."

Considering the pros and cons of the Spanish model, the big ship trade is afraid of privateers like wolves.This is at least in the East, Southeast Asia, and Dashun maritime merchants do not need to consider this.

In Southeast Asia, there is no United Kingdom and Holland, so there is no need to worry about privateers like wolves.

Many disadvantages of the Spanish model do not exist in Dashun, and by using them, we can get rid of the dross and extract the essence.

And if we really want to go out of Malacca in the future, the bigger the ship, the better.

"It seems that you have no objections, so this matter is settled. In the future, the shipbuilding of the trading company should build ocean-going ships as much as possible. The shipyard in Weihai can still meet the demand. As long as the money is in place, the ship is not a problem. .”

"Actually, to be honest, everyone has made a lot of money this time. Once the Wa Kingdom is established, you have to know that it's not just the original goods."

"Iron smelters and glass factories in Liaodong, these objects that could not be imported into Japan, can also be sold. The profit will not be small."

"Building ships and sailors can be regarded as your money to support the reserve army for the court. As long as the court continues to fight outside, you will have a good life, and you can rest assured. The earth is so big, are you afraid that there will be no country to fight?"

"Everything is ready. As for whether you can suppress the Japanese pirates, pirates, and smugglers that may appear, it depends on your ability."

(End of this chapter)