Xinshun 1730

Chapter 133
"Japan has closed its doors and banned trade. If we can trade with it, it will not only be for the benefit of the people, but for the benefit of the people."

"It is not only profitable, but also able to practice the navy. It is killing two birds with one stone."

As soon as his words fell, the faces of several Pingzhangshi were strange.

"Such things may lead to conquest of Dawan because of the poor soldiers of the Han and Wu forces. Besides, although Japan is small, the Mongol and Yuan kingdoms were still invincible in the past. Wanli's aid to the dynasty will shake the muscles and bones, and even cause the catastrophe of the Eastern Captives."

Liu Yu replied: "One time and another time. Could it be that the Mongols were unable to conquer Japan because they had no navy? Westerners can now reach Guangdong and Macao from [-] miles away. Can't you go?"

"As long as it can be besieged by the navy, it will be conquered for a long time. With Pusan ​​in North Korea as the port, only three to five thousand elites are needed. With the speed of sea ships, it is impossible to prevent Nagasaki today and Edo tomorrow."

"Besides, Japan is so narrow that even if you want to move to the Forbidden Sea, you won't be able to retreat fifty miles away."

"My court is a teacher of benevolence and righteousness. I don't cede land, and I don't seek money. As long as Japan pays tribute and opens up trade, my court can protect Japan from Westerners. Will they refuse such a good thing?"

"Maybe I can't figure it out for a while, but the sailing of the navy arrives every three to five days, within half a year, there must be a wise person figured it out. If the king can't figure it out, someone else will help him figure it out."

"At that time, money and trade will continue to flow, and they will have no navy, so they must obey, and they will not dare to be disobedient."

Li Gan had heard Liu Yu's threat about the threat of Westerners at sea in the future, and now he listened to it again, and thought, isn't this a copy of what you said back then about Westerners threatening the country?

It's just that compared to the ban on water transport and the opening of imperial examinations that day, this is much simpler, as long as Japan can pay tribute, trade, and not allow shipbuilding.

Since it is a tribute, it belongs to the suzerain vassal.

If Westerners also wanted to trade with Japan, and if they threatened with military power, the Celestial Dynasty would certainly protect the vassals.

It sounds like it might work.

Of course Li Gan knew that Japan had a lot of silver and copper.Li Gan also knew about Japan's sequestration of the country.

It's just that he never had the idea of ​​"forced trade".

Looking at this matter from Li Gan's point of view, there is another advantage.

Before Liu Yu, the Westerner threatened Dongnan to frighten him. According to what Liu Yu said, only [-] soldiers would be enough.

If Guochao prepares and trains a new army and navy according to the Western military system, based on the comparison of their size, the threat to Japan is about [-] soldiers.

If Japan can be subdued by these forces, it will prove that Liu Yu's intimidation is not groundless worry, but a real threat.

In any case, the idea of ​​"supporting the navy with the navy" can at least be justified and makes sense.

In the past, the Zheng family was able to rely on Japan's trade to make the country as rich as an enemy. Japan has a lot of silver and copper. Today, the country does not have enough copper to make coins. If the trade can be opened up, it will indeed be profitable.

To make it open to trade, it does need a navy.

Li Gan looked at the rest of the people, and the British prince smiled slightly, thinking that Liu Yu was a cunning man, and kept silent about the customs matters of Fujian, Guangdong, Jiangsu, and Zhejiang to the West, but put the answer of "supporting the navy with the navy" on Japan. .

That's a good idea.

Because the West is different from Japan, Westerners are pleading for trade, while Japan is a closed country.

If you want to get more money from Westerners' trade, you must either close the redundant customs and open up trade to facilitate management and tax collection; or you have to learn from the Song Dynasty and monopolize trade by the government.

No matter which point, it will cause an uproar, violent fluctuations, and even corruption in the south of the Yangtze River.

But if you start with Japan, you can see real benefits, which proves that it is feasible to use the navy to support the navy;

It is much easier to raise the navy with Japan, and when the navy is successful, it will be much easier to enter Nanyang.

If it can fly directly to Japan and can force Japan to switch trade, is it still a problem to transport grain and rice from the south?

If sea transport can be used instead of water transport, it can save a fortune and relieve the fatigue of the people.

From a general point of view, it is reasonable for the Sixth Division to move if Japan has not come to pay tribute for a long time.

The British Duke secretly agreed, thinking that he is indeed a talented person. It was said that it will be completed in five years, and this matter may take another five years.

In the past ten years, there is no need to touch the interests of water transportation and smuggling in the south of the Yangtze River, and it will not cause violent turmoil.It will be more feasible to deal with Jiangnan affairs after the navy has achieved a small success.

So he asked Liu Yu another question.

"You just talked about North Korea. This North Korea is not that North Korea. How will North Korea treat it?"

"Back to peace."

"If you want to make Japan pay tribute, you have to control North Korea. Now that the chaos in North Korea has not subsided, our court should take this opportunity to increase its control over North Korea."

"An angel is stationed here. If there is another incident in North Korea, he can see it. Since North Korea is a vassal, if there is another incident of brother killing in the country, the Celestial Dynasty will deal with it. Otherwise, how can it be called enlightenment?"

"Secondly, I asked more about North Korea's state affairs. I learned that North Korea used to barter things without even using money, so that the people didn't know that money could be used. The country does not mint money, so it is right to ask North Korea to use our North Korean money."

"Although our court is also short of copper, if we control North Korea and go to Japan to pay tribute, there will be no shortage of copper. Let North Korea use my court money to be a true vassal."

"Three Koreas produce paper, ginseng, etc., and our country produces silk and satin, which can be exchanged for paper ginseng. If the country can be opened to trade, the people of Shandong will have another way to survive. The trade is enough to survive .”

"The fourth is to ask North Korea to allow the Chinese navy to use its ports, one for supply, two for training, and three for Ruoqing and disasters in Henan, and to go around North Korea and emigrate to Nuer Gandusi, and emigrate to Shibian. Once the navy has a small success in the future , You can go to Japan from Busan and other places to make it pay tribute. Moreover, if there is a change in North Korea, you can also subdue it nearby, so that there will be no ambitious rebels ascend to the throne of North Korea."

Hearing the words, the British public thought that I just wanted to increase the control over North Korea, so as to avoid future disasters.

What you want is to completely control North Korea and turn foreign feudal vassals into prisons?
However, these requirements seem to be achievable.

Now that there is civil strife in North Korea, the Dashun court has been suppressing the canonization of the new King of Joseon.

I just want to ask for some more conditions.

If these conditions are added to it, the king of North Korea should also be able to accept it.If not, you can agree with the statement of the rioters in the south: the current king of Joseon came to power by poisoning his brother.

It would be a pity if such a good opportunity is not used.

There is no need for a single soldier from the imperial court, and even those who go to North Korea for canonization not only do not need to spend a penny: according to the experience of the previous dynasty, at least 3 to [-] taels of silver can be obtained in bribes.

The big deal is that the imperial court will not give officials this opportunity to make a fortune this time, be honest and upright, show the style of the dynasty, and go to get this matter done.

A little intimidation and North Korea will take it.

The British prince thought, Liu Yu blackmailed Raksha's pearls and jades in northern Xinjiang, and I have learned how to blackmail.

The idea of ​​"North Korea using the country's money" made the British public feel that they were really old.

In terms of vision, after all, it is still not as good as this young man who can explain the ins and outs of using silver as a tax currency in the Ming Dynasty.

He knows that North Korea does not have money now, nor does it make money.

In the first few years, the people basically returned to the level of bartering. According to the North Korean tribute, the North Korean people have even forgotten the concept that money can buy things.

At first, the British thought that North Korea was crying for poverty, because they were afraid that they would say that they were rich, so that the Celestial Dynasty would allow North Korea to pay tribute of copper and silver.

But he sent someone to question the North Korean musketeers who had been recruited, and he was sure that the North Korean tribute envoys were really not crying for poverty, but that they hadn't minted money for many years.

In addition, North Korea has basically retreated to the system of two groups of nobles controlling the government. The place is small, and it is not as troublesome as it is to recruit civilians or expropriate goods, and there are indeed fewer places to spend money.

The Korean tribute envoy once said: "The foolish people don't know what money is, and it has been 200 years since the last time they used money."

What's more, North Korea enforces transactions with money, and even "orders people to bring [-] money each, and those who don't bring money will be guilty", which is of no use.

People in North Korea don't recognize money at all, have never touched money, and have no interest in money.

That's why "command to use money to trade, whip the mess, merchants can't do it, and complaints fill the road." At that time, the North Korean minister who promoted money was impeached and left.

Although the use of money has resumed now, the money is still not enough.

This pot still has to be carried forward.

In accordance with Taizong's teachings, the country is not closed to the outside world, and overseas trade is allowed.

Although Japan was locked down, Dashun merchants still squeezed out a piece of the sky, snatching a lot of Japan's small copper export share, and the rest was divided up by the Netherlands and other countries.

North Korea’s trade was basically under the guise of tribute trade. When tribute envoys came to Beijing, they brought some private goods or silver, bought Dashun’s silk, etc., and brought them back, and then transferred them to Japan for trade.

But under Dashun's trade policy, domestic businessmen can go directly to Japan for trade.The goods obtained by North Korea in this way could not compete with those Dashun merchants who went directly from Fujian to Japan for trade.

Under the squeeze, North Korea trades less than copper.

With no copper, coupled with the strict prohibition of mining, and the lack of money since the late Ming Dynasty, North Korea has really been free of money for many years.

If North Korea can use Dashun's money, let North Korea open trade and only allow trade with Dashun, let North Korea allow Dashun's navy to park in North Korea's port for supplies, let Dashun's angels stay in North Korea... such control, It is already almost the same as the place of Jiji.

What is money?
Money is copper.

Copper is indeed lacking in China, and exports are not allowed.

But if North Korea can be controlled, in the long run, North Korea can be used as a springboard to solve Japan's affairs.

China lacks copper, but Japan does not.

If North Korea can control it, once the navy rises, wouldn’t Japan’s copper belong to the Celestial Dynasty?
Such an opportunity is right in front of us, if we don't take advantage of it, we think that China is short of money, and if North Korea is allowed to use China's money, it may be even more short-sighted... This is extremely short-sighted.

The British public thinks that Liu Yu has basically given a solution to various problems in policy and theory, and can basically confirm that Liu Yu is a prudent person rather than just talking about general ideas but has no means. He is about to ask the emperor whether Just end this questioning.

But Liu Yu said again: "Your Majesty, take North Korea and Japan as examples, besides these two, there are other uses."

"I read some, and learned that in the last year of Wanli in the previous dynasty, the customs tariff was 2 taels a year. Now my court respects Taizong's legacy, trade and trade, Fujian, Guangdong, Zhejiang, and Jiang customs, merchants trade, although the tariffs levied are eight times higher than In the previous dynasty, it was only 16 taels."

"How should the tariff be set? How should the tax be collected? I believe that reform is also needed. It's just a matter of reform, and it should not be moved rashly. It should be a small sample and try it out."

"If it works, use it. If it doesn't work, don't use it."

"For trade between North Korea and Japan, we can try a new deal. North Korea does not trade with us, and Japan locks up the country. Not many people benefit, and the impact is not big. Even if the new deal is invalid, it will not shake the important place in the south of the Yangtze River."

"That's why, I believe that we should build a customs office in Dengzhou, Shandong, and trade with Japan and North Korea. I would like to ask about Western tariff laws and try them out as a sample."

"One as a trial."

"Secondly, it is also possible to train some specialized subordinate officials, or to run schools with subordinate staff knowledge to recruit children. If it is feasible in the future, it can be promoted in Fujian, Guangdong, Jiangsu, Zhejiang and other customs."

"Taxes are not collected there. On the one hand, there is smuggling. On the other hand, the subordinates are bound to deceive the top and the bottom, and the benefits are huge. If we can use the trade between Japan and North Korea to train a group of new students who are proficient in accounting, they will go south in the future. You don’t have to worry about being deceived by the subordinate staff.”

"Therefore, the policy of Nanyang and the Western Regions of the Minister is divided into 20 years."

"Five years."

"Establish the Wude Palace branch school in Dengzhou, and select young people who are proficient in geometric surveying and mapping to learn from the foreigners. Build Western ships and try to sail to North Korea and Japan."

"Occupying trade and obtaining Japanese copper and silver."

"Establish a new learning school in Dengzhou, and use the old five battalion good family members who cannot enter the Wude Palace to serve as subordinates to learn accounting."

"With North Korea and Japan trade as a supplement, it doesn't need to cost the court too much money."

"ten years."

"The navy is rough, and the tax law is changing."

"Lock Japan in North Korea, and ask him about the crime of not going to North Korea. Force Japan to switch trade, and pay tribute to him."

"I also used the navy to carry the immigrants from Qing and Henan, and immigrated to Shibian from the land of Nuer Gandusi."

"20."

"When the new customs tax law can be promoted, and the navy can compete with Westerners in Southeast Asia, then we will have no worries about going to the sea and the frontier."

"Afterwards, it may be like the Han and Wu emptied the Western Regions, the prosperous Tang Dynasty protected Anxi, and our dynasty protected Nanyang. Then the strategy can be achieved."

Li Gan didn't wait for the others to express their views, and said, "Good! What you are dealing with is very much in line with my heart. Just step back."

The rest of the people didn't say anything, so Li Gan asked Liu Yu to step down first.

As soon as Liu Yu went out, Li Gan asked the British Duke first.

"What do you think?"

The British Duke thought for a moment and said: "Everyone who collects money is nothing more than increasing income and reducing expenditure. Wang Jinggong's increase of income is quite inconvenient for the people and it is difficult to promote it. Liu Shouchang's method is to open sweet wells in the desert."

Regarding the gains and losses of Wang Anshi's reform, since Dashun adopted the Sanshe method, it was naturally after some discussion.Although there is a saying that "govern the world with the scholar-bureaucrats, not with the common people", there is indeed a big problem.

It is an obvious transformation of the ancient system, using the name of Zhou Li, but practicing the legalist technique, and it is also the legalist hegemony of Guanzi in the Spring and Autumn Period and Warring States Period.

Although Dashun said that he used both kings and tyrants, he really didn't dare to do so.

The south of the Yangtze River is related to the stability of Dashun. Before there is no feasible and effective method, it must not be moved.

Even if you know the current taxation, there is definitely a big problem.

Originally, whether it was Li Gan or the British Duke, they all thought that Liu Yu would definitely do it in the south of the Yangtze River when he said that he wanted to develop the navy and expand the South Seas.

According to their thinking, check the land, gentry pay grain, reform tariffs, otherwise where will the money come from?

But Liu Yu didn't want to mention Jiangnan in half a sentence, but took Japan and North Korea, which no one thought of, and made a big detour.

North Korea itself has no formal trade with Dashun, but all trade is smuggled.Even the private trade of tribute missions is theoretically not allowed.

Japan is closed to the country, and the trade volume on the surface is not very large.

Starting from these two places did not touch the vital interests of the Jiangnan area: it may touch the North Korean smuggling group in the Liaodong area, but Liaodong is not Jiangnan, so there will be no major problems.

As for how to squeeze out the trade volume from Japan, Li Gan is sure that since Liu Yu said it, there must be a way.It's just that this method...may not be convenient to talk about here.

This is all a conspiracy, and you are clearly told to do this, but you are helpless.

When it is done, it does not touch too many interests, and there is almost no voice of opposition, which is what the British public calls "opening a sweet well in the desert".

After the basic formation is formed, there is nothing you can do if you want to oppose it: the navy has formed, and the subordinates of the new learning training department have guaranteed that there will be no collusion of interests in the short term.

At the beginning, Liu Yu frightened Li Gan that India would be controlled by Westerners in 30 years at the most, but now the solution given is that it will take 20 years to compare males and females.

20 years, he can still afford to wait.

What the British Duke was most worried about was that Liu Yu followed Li Gan's overjoyed, impetuous and aggressive temperament, and deliberately took great steps in order to win the holy family.

He will definitely live less than 20 years.

However, the most worrying thing now seems that Liu Yu's mind is very clear, and he can be relieved.

So he said: "I think this son can be of great use."

This is a very high evaluation. In the previous examination admissions, the British public has never used the word "worthy of use", at most it is "usable".

Li Gan thought to himself, what the British government said is true, and it can indeed be of great use.Looks like I picked the right guy.

　The problem of North Korean money, if you look deeper, it may be caused by the Qing Dynasty's relocation of the border and the ban on the sea.Because of the relocation of the border and the ban on the sea, North Korea occupied the seats of Chinese businessmen as second-hand dealers, so that North Korea could get enough copper to make money.

　　And in this time and space, because there is no border-removal forbidden sea, North Korea, a second-hand businessman, will definitely not be able to snatch its own maritime merchants.Without copper, according to deduction, it should not be possible to mint money.Now that history has changed, we cannot ignore the butterfly effect.

　　At the very least, the North Korean merchants have been beaten by Japan, and they really dare not sell things like war horses to Japan; the maritime merchants in their own country dare to smuggle war horses, warriors, horned bows, military books...all of them.If North Korea can grab the trade quota, it will be hell.

　　
　
(End of this chapter)