Xinshun 1730

Chapter 1220 Great Loyal Minister
Although these words are not pleasant to hear, as the saying goes, honest words are good for deeds, and good medicine is good for the disease.

Liu Yu seems to be saying, Emperor, those things you think about are very good.But there are unpredictable things, do you know when you will die?

In case, before your business is done, the rattle disappears, do you think the prince can play and understand what you want to play?

If you do that kind of thing, it is very simple; if it is a prince, will it be difficult or simple, what can be done, and whether you can understand the essence of governance, who can guarantee?
The prince is so old, it will be hard for anyone you keep as a minister who takes care of his life and assists the government.When the time comes, you know what he can do?
If he doesn't do it right, or if he does it like a fool, what, you can still climb out of the coffin and tell him what to do?

Even if you tell him that his prestige, ability, and control over the wealth of the inner court are the same as yours?You are just giving him tricks, can he understand?
Dashun should understand things like birth, old age, sickness and death the most, right?After all, your family is the picked emperor. Although your surname is Li, this Shun has nothing to do with Shun in Xiangyang and Xi'an.You think you will live until the day when all the Yellow River incidents are resolved when such rare events as those in Jiugong Mountain can happen?
These words, coupled with the previous Lisbon earthquake, seem to be more convincing.This side just wants to take back Macau and solve the problem of Christians in Nanyang. They talked a lot about the Jesuits and the Holy See, but there was an earthquake there.

This incident made the panic even more unpredictable.

The emperor didn't care that these words were a bit harsh, and he didn't really care that Liu Yu said that he was "loyal to the emperor, and the world can learn from it."

There is no nutrition in this statement, and there is no way to dig out the heart to see if it is true or false.

The emperor just felt that there was some truth to this statement.

Sui said, "I've always thought about loving you."

"In the past, Emperor Wu expelled the Xiongnu and garrisoned Luntai to gain the benefits of salt and iron, and practiced the method of equalization and equal loss."

"Later generations can discard it, use it, and change it."

"The ancients said: one piece and one relaxation, the way of civil and military. Chi is easy, but Zhang is difficult."

"It's like the time of Yongle in the previous dynasty, sailing to the west and conquering Mobei."

"Later generations can stop the Western Ocean and abandon the Mobei Land, but it must be there first, and then it can be abandoned."

"I also understand what Qing means, that is to say that if you make a mistake at this time, you can change it in the future; but I'm afraid that if you want to do something in the future, you won't be able to do it."

"Abandoning land is easy, but acquiring land is difficult. Similarly, it is easy to abolish a brutal government, but it is difficult to promote a domineering government."

"I have also thought about the matter of the Yellow River. Since the ancients said that it is good to plan ahead. If the problem of the Yellow River can be solved, it will really benefit the community..."

"It's just that there are differences between Shandong and Songsu."

"Qingyan's story is different from Songsu's. I'm quite puzzled. Didn't Aiqing say that he wants to raise funds from merchants to build the railway?"

But Liu Yu said: "The minister carried out reforms in Songsu, dredged the canal, and built the canal from Funing to Nantong. The counterpart to the railway is the canal. Those canals were built with taxes and government orders. It is required to pay for work and repair along the way. It is not for merchants to repair."

"I just feel that this kind of thing is like making a steam engine. There are many ways to do it, and the principles are different. You always have to try a few times, make different prototypes, and then compare which one is more suitable. .”

"Nowadays, there are rumors that the world is equalizing the land and going back to the old days. The price of grain in Shandong is not in the situation that if the early harvest is cheap, the disaster will be expensive. The trend of mergers has spread all over the world."

"I don't know what will happen in the future. But I do know that if there is a last resort, there will be changes, changes. Those who change will change; those who change will change."

"Whether it's change or revolution, it's all change."

"How to change and what will it look like? You have to try it first, and you can count as accumulating some experience, which can be used as history in the future and as a lesson for future generations."

"Songsu's change may be used in the Kanto and Nanyang; the other change in Shandong, the gains and losses in it, may be used in Gyeonggi and the Central Plains in the future."

The emperor suddenly realized that since Liu Yu talked about Juntian's restoration of the past, he might be completely different from Songsu's side?
Although the essence is basically the same thing, because at this time the world market and the level of industrialization, Dashun has no shortage of cheap labor, and there is no room for so many.

As for increasing production, this time, that time.Looking at it now, Dashun's yield per mu is basically considered to be the world's best, and it is not impossible to make do with it and keep it as it is.

In essence, what Liu Yu has to do is to increase the proportion of industry and commerce.It's just that it seems to be completely different from Songsu, but in fact, the core has not changed at all.

He just said some things in more "traditional" terms, avoiding the development of industry and commerce and the disintegration of the old economy.

However, the emperor heard that when Liu Yu mentioned ancient times, land equalization and so on, the emperor felt that he was completely different from Songsu.

Liu Yu took a deep breath and said slowly: "If you want to manage the Yellow River, you must first solve the hearts of the people. The people will never let the Yellow River pass through."

"That's why, I believe that if you want to manage the Yellow River, you must first get the hearts of the people [-] miles away from the surveyed river course."

"Because most of the people within [-] miles of the river will be relocated, and it is impossible to win their hearts. Since it is impossible to win their hearts, there is no need to waste time, money, and energy to win their hearts."

"In the future, the people thirty miles away from the river... still have a chance to fight."

"Let's reduce rent and interest first, extend the tenancy, use labor as relief, teach agriculture, loan young crops, and support farmers and workers, so that they can benefit and the people will gather together."

"If the hearts of the people gather, the Yellow River can be accomplished. The people are not fools. If they benefit from it, they will understand it when they explain the benefits and harms."

"At that time, the people in the Zonghe River will be dissatisfied, but it is impossible for the sky to become a piece of land, and even the flames of fire will start a prairie fire."

"This is the technique of positive differentiation."

"So that the people inside and outside the river can't communicate, and their hearts are not the same, and then the people who move to the river and the people outside the river, then the river embankment can be completed."

"In addition to the river embankment, we can also try to ease the merger. Whether it is good or bad, you will know after trying it."

"My minister suffered from reincarnation in the past. The annexation has already violated the world, and I am only afraid that someone in the future will carry out the law reform. Therefore, if you try it first, know the pros and cons, and sum up the experience, so as not to be afraid if Wang Mang slaps his head at that time. The world is in chaos."

Hearing this, the emperor was convinced that this was indeed a completely different way of thinking from Songsu's.

In Songsu, Liu Yuxing's policy was not to reduce rent and interest, but to do the opposite.

Abolition of tax in kind, mandatory currency tax, exemption of import duties—anyway, the imported stuff is either grain or raw materials such as cotton—to drive down grain prices, force tenants to quit their leases, go to work or emigrate, and landlords have to try to transform their operations. profitable.

Of course, the premise of this policy is the background of the great development of the East and Southeast Asia.Otherwise, there is no room for so many retired laborers.

And because the development of Kanto and Nanyang is profitable, many tenants either work or go to plantations to grow soybeans and rice after retiring from their tenants.

And most of them were hired by the capital, and the Dashun court didn't pay much.

Naturally, this method cannot be applied to Shandong.Because it is impossible to reproduce the material foundation of Songsu, as well as the state of development in Northeast and Southeast Asia when it was first launched.

He only heard about rent reduction, interest rate reduction, long-tenancy and other means, and the emperor thought he could be sure that Liu Yu really didn't want to repeat the Songsu incident in Shandong.

But in fact, from the perspective of industrial and commercial development, it is actually the same thing at all.

Just changed the packaging and appearance.

Liu Yu only talked about the first half of rent reduction, interest rate reduction, and long tenancy.

In fact, there is still a second half, he didn't say anything.

In the second half, after rent reduction, interest rate reduction, and long-term tenancy, on the one hand, the rule will deepen; on the other hand, the capital in the hands of the landlord will be very painful.

Rent reduction, interest rate reduction, and long-term tenancy, the landlord's money is unlikely to buy land, and the income from the land is actually decreasing, and it is actually not cost-effective to lend.

Under such circumstances, the railway was built and the coal mines in Linzi and Bochuan were developed, and the capital of the landlords could quickly flow to industry and commerce.

Taking coal mines as an opportunity, capital investment is needed for flue-cured tobacco leaves, tussah silk reeling and weaving, peanut oil extraction, match factories, glass factories supporting coal mines, lime factories, and flour mills driven by steam engines.

On the one hand, the landlord may choose to sell the land in his hands - anyway, the rent is reduced, the interest rate is reduced, and the tenants are fucking long, and they don't make much money at all - it is better to get the funds and invest in industry and commerce.

On the other hand, it can be regarded as a kind of "redemption" type of land equalization, but it is the farmers themselves who pay the money.

Farmers paid to buy land, and the money flowed to industry and commerce, mining, and modern industry. In fact, primitive accumulation was achieved by farmers' money.

This is where it differs from Songsu.Songsu relies on the accumulation of foreign trade and has strong capital, while Liu Yu's land policy in Songsu is actually looking for investment directions for the strong Songsu capital, making them turn to Kanto and Nanyang.

This can be regarded as half-local protectionism, but it can also be regarded as a transformation that minimizes pain, otherwise it would be ugly to let Songsu Capital rush in.

Local advantageous industries such as coal mines, silk reeling, tussah silkworms, and peanuts were all taken away by Songsu Capital, and quickly collapsed... Not to mention, the Yellow River embankment is impossible to repair.

At that time, it will be impossible to stop the rumor that "Songsu Capital is conspiring to introduce the Yellow River from Jiangsu to Shandong".After all, when the time comes, the local gentry will feel sad under the impact of foreign capital and foreign commodities.

The hard life in the semi-colonial and semi-feudal state is difficult because it is difficult for local forces to complete the transformation.Profitable business, either compradors or external capital, can only think about land, but the energy is squeezed.

Geographical issues are not taboo.The dispute between natives and tourists did not only occur in the south. Historically, due to the problem of land reclamation in Shandong and Jiangsu, it was common for both sides to fight their brains.

Therefore, it is necessary to reserve some profitable industries for local forces so that they can complete the transformation and become local supporters of reform.

Otherwise, the railway is owned by Songsu Capital, the coal mine is owned by Songsu Capital, the silk reeling tussah is owned by Songsu Capital, and the peanut oil sales are owned by Songsu Capital... It would be amazing if local forces could support the reform .

Of course, Liu Yu still has to consider local advantages and the future national unified market.Therefore, it is impossible for Liu Yu to engage in the cotton industry. It is impossible to plant a single cotton tree in Shandong, and it will be troublesome when the future Indian cotton is planted.

This is a kind of "pretend local protectionism", but it is actually a preparation for the future national unified market.

Songsu has no tussah silkworms, is not suitable for growing peanuts or flue-cured tobacco, and has no coal mines.It's just that capital has legs, so it is still necessary to properly control this leg.

In the early years, when the canal was still in use, many merchants and gentry in Shandong complained to themselves, saying that in Linqing’s commercial circle, only Shanxi people were making money, and the locals could not grab anything.This kind of dissatisfaction between regions is not a day or two.

It's just that the emperor didn't understand Liu Yu's logic at all, so when he heard about rent reduction, interest rate reduction, and long-term tenancy, he felt that it was completely different from what Songsu wanted to do.

However, he obviously didn't understand that Songsu's capital and Shandong's capital are both called capital, and that belongs to one family, not your feudal imperial power.

There is no difference between the money used to redeem the land and the money used to sell tea, porcelain, and silk. Once it is put into industry and becomes means of production, do you know whether the steam engine is exchanged for tea or peanuts?

The emperor thought it was different, but in fact it was just a core, with a layer of traditional anti-merger skin changed.As for things like land intensification, it is not something to consider now after industrialization.What Songsu did was for the development of Kanto and Nanyang, not Songsu's own land.

(End of this chapter)