Xinshun 1730

Chapter 1146 Many divergent roads, today is here ([-])

It seems that Liu Yu wants to enrich North Korea, but actually he wants to enrich Dashun.

For some distances, it is not accurate to look at the scale maps drawn by surveying and mapping.

Judging from the special scale map of bulk cargo freight, in fact, the distance from Pyongyang to Shanghai is comparable to that from Hefei to Shanghai.Although from the space map, Hefei is much closer.

This method of enriching the country is actually quite bloody. It is purely based on the fact that the aristocratic literati in North Korea have a large population and land, and adopt a method similar to that of Prussian or Russian serfs serving in factories to quickly complete abnormal industrial and commercial development.

No sage king or master Qingtian can save them, and the only ones who can save them can only rely on themselves.

It’s like the wave after wave of salt workers’ uprisings triggered by the reform of the salt administration, although from the perspective of productivity only, Liu Yu’s definition of appeal to these people is a reaction in productivity.

But Liu Yu is very supportive of their actions.

If you harm your own interests, you just do it, so why not?
At the beginning, if Liu Yu's thousands of new troops were defeated in one wave, rushed to Haizhou to destroy the sun-dried salt field, and returned to the small salt production mode in Huainan, Liu Yu would have given a thumbs up.This is class struggle.

This kind of struggle is life and death. Even the salt workers' uprising of tens of thousands of people cannot be suppressed, and it cannot be forced to relocate millions of people overseas to Southeast Asia within a dozen years with a super high death rate, and still have the seeds of capitalism with a hammer?

The key point is that the Korean country is too hip. From the reform of the slave-servant lineage system, it can be deduced that the royal power of the Korean country has been exhausted, and it cannot withstand a major reform or an uprising.

To use a simple description of feudal society, it is the vassals of the king's vassals, not the king's vassals; and the direct vassals of the king ran to the king's vassals to be the vassals of the vassals.Now the king wants to pull the vassals of the vassals into his own direct vassals.

If this doesn't happen, it's really a ghost.

It is nothing more than because it is a vassal state of Dashun and it is close to Dashun, so it is unlikely that it will be replaced by someone with a strong army and a strong horse as the king of Joseon.

Either, make trouble on the heir; or, party disputes; or, a large-scale peasant uprising; or, the royal family rebelled against the king's "stroke";

In short, there are many opportunities for Dashun to enter the arena - except for the factional disputes in the court and court during the talk stage, which is really not easy to enter the arena - the rest can all enter the arena in a legitimate way.

The point is, after entering the market, how can we ensure that the educated class still has ideals and think that the policies after Dashun are correct, and even throwing people into coal mines is a kind of benevolent government?
If you don't have ideals, and you only think about money, goods, wealth, and sex, then don't even think about it.

Therefore, in order to "brainwash" Quan Zhe, in Liu Yu's view, a crucial basic problem is to let them determine the most basic concept.

This concept is neither the benevolence, righteousness and morality of the magic reform, nor the heretical scriptures.

Rather, the simplest sentence: There is enough food in the world.The world is very big, where you can't see, there is plenty of food.

Because the real elites actually understand a very profound truth: if the common people have no food to eat, they will rebel.

Of course, not many people understand this truth.

Liu Yu guessed that Quan Zheshen must understand. Although he didn't know that the Xinghu School divided the left from the left and the left was from the retro land reform, but since he can keenly sense the changes of the times and sneak into Dashun to find a way to save the world, this kind of person must understand the common people The truth is that if there is no food to eat, there will be rebellion.

In fact, the truth that "there is actually enough food in the world" is precisely the first obstacle preventing Quan Zhe from accepting Liu Yu's fallacies.

Many common sense that later generations take for granted are not common sense at this time.

It's not that there is a difference of hundreds of years, there is any gap in IQ.

It is because North Korea is tightly closed. It is really hard for a person who grew up in the so-called three thousand miles of mountains and rivers and who has not lived in an era of abundant material and global trade to understand—if ordinary people don’t farm , all work, what to eat?
Even if he is an aristocratic scholar-bureaucrat, he is not the kind of servant who lives in the world for a lifetime and is only a servant for thirty miles around.

But in terms of vision, at this time, it is really not as good as some low-level people in Dashun who were taken to the Northeast or ran to Nanyang.

If you don't even know how big the world is, how can you understand and explain the world?
Just as astronomy was introduced into North Korea, Confucian scholars in North Korea doubted Zhu Zi's Neo-Confucianism.

Now if we want Quan Zheshen to accept the idea that developing industry and commerce is for the great benefit, we have to let him know that the world is big and there are many places that produce food, and mining coal, smelting iron, growing cotton, and eating food are not in conflict.

Of course, the premise of this kind of deception is that North Korea is on the Korean peninsula.

Liu Yu couldn't use the same reasoning, so he went to Gansu and Shaanxi to talk about it.Because if you say it, you don’t say it, no matter how much food from Nanyang can’t be shipped to Gansu; but the food from other places can really be shipped to North Korea by sea.

If the first obstacle cannot be broken, it will be impossible to fool them into digging coal in the north and planting cotton in the south.

This seemingly insignificant sentence is actually reshaping Quan Zheshen's worldview.

In the Songsu area, there is no need for Liu Yu to reshape this world view.

Because at the end of the Ming Dynasty, many places in Songsu did not grow food at all, and sold cloth and silk to buy food.

It’s like there is no need to tell the people in the Central Plains that planting in spring and harvesting in autumn can provide enough food; but if you go to those Indian tribes that chase bison for a living, they say that planting in spring and harvesting in autumn is the most efficient way of survival, they must think this is the most efficient way to survive. Don't tell me?

The current situation in North Korea is just recovering from the wars of the year. The rural areas have just begun to have usury, land private ownership, a unified national market, and the merchant class has not developed because of the system of "all taxes are converted into rice". How many years.

It is definitely easier for them to read the economic part of "Zhou Li" than to let them read "The Wealth of Nations".Even if they are asked to read the economics part of "Guanzi", they may not be able to fully understand it. Most of them can only imagine what the light and heavy technique is.

This is determined by the economic basis.

Sometimes, what kind of world you see will determine many things.

Just like the two major factions of the Korean Real School in history.

Historically, the Xinghu School had never been to China in their entire life, and they were politically unsuccessful. Most of the time they were in a state of semi-exile in rural areas, witnessing the suffering in the countryside. Therefore, the reform focus of the Xinghu School lies in restoring ancient ways and land reform. .

And using the Welfare School, the initiators have been to China as a tribute envoy and have seen a bigger world. Although they are not too proud politically, they live in the most economically developed cities in the capital circle after all, so the reform focus of their school is industry and commerce.

But now, the situation is reversed.

People from the Xinghu School, a group of barefoot, quietly ran to the Songsu area to see the prosperity of the world; those who used the Welfare School wore shoes and were good in officialdom, so they had to take the regular route to the capital.

The economic base of Dashun capital and Songsu is actually no smaller than the gap between the Xinghu faction who was squatting in the rural areas of Gyeonggi in history, and the use of the health-care faction in the industrial and commercial developed areas of Seoul.

After all, the north is the cornerstone of Dashun's ruling core, and it is also the place where the troubled times had the greatest impact and Dashun's degree of compromise was the least. There is a very large and stable small-scale peasant economy there.

North China, of course, is not within the scope of Songsu Capital's economic system.

To explain this truth, Liu Yu adopted the method of reading thousands of books and traveling thousands of miles.

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A few days later, Quan Zheshen with a haggard face was saying goodbye to Meng Songlu. It could also be said that Meng Songlu was bidding farewell to Quan Zheshen.

Meng Songlu held up his wine glass and wished: "Brother Luan is going to travel in Nanyang this time, and I am going to Honolulu in the Far Eastern Ocean. I don't know if we will see you again in the future. You and I have not known each other for a long time, but it is considered to be a good relationship. Please drink this cup. "

This cup of farewell wine, Meng Songlu drank it with a strong feeling, while Quan Zhe drank it with mixed flavors.

With the wine glass in hand, Quan Zhe said, "in the past, Mr. Mianzhuang said that the way of our country lies in Songsu. But now, Duke Xingguo said that Songsu is not Songsu. Songsu is as big as Europa in the west and Java in the south. Yang. Xingguo Gong said that Mr. Mianzhuang’s words are correct, but only in Songsu, you can’t see the whole picture of Songsu.”

"Just because I am in this mountain, I can't see the true face of Lushan Mountain."

"Grand Xing Guo even said that North Korea is not like the Celestial Dynasty at all, but it is a bit like the Lion Kingdom and the Ceylon Kingdom. It is nothing more than two classes of nobles on one side and Gaowei caste on the other; Sarajama caste; rolling cinnamon over there, selling ginseng over here..."

"Brother Meng, have you ever been to Ceylon and Gaolang Port?"

Meng Songlu couldn't answer these words.

It's a good thing to say, definitely not.

Call it a humiliation, but it doesn't seem to be it.

At least as far as Meng Songlu knows, it seems that apart from growing rice, he doesn't know much else.

But he probably knew about the disputes between "Sinicization" and "local traditions" that took place in North Korea, as well as the disputes between "Buddhism" and "Confucianism".

Therefore, he didn't know what Liu Yu meant by this question, so he couldn't talk nonsense, so he said: "I have never been there. However, I really don't know the difference between the two. But Xing Guogong said that he doesn't know the true face of Lushan Mountain, only because of his body. In this mountain, there is some truth."

"If you take a closer look, if you only look at Shanghai, you will feel strange and strange everywhere. But if you walk around northern Jiangsu and look at the cotton in northern Jiangsu, you will feel that you can see those strange things clearly."

"I don't know what Duke Xingguo said to Brother Lu'an?"

Quan Zhe smiled, shook his head and said with a wry smile: "It's all heresy. People who say they love food have strange habits. Normal people don't love food, so they pile up food. They accumulate food because they love food. Normal people just use food and eat food. When they are full, they will choose to sell the excess food.”

Meng Songlu also laughed when he heard the words. This is indeed a heretical statement of the great enemy of Confucianism, and it is different from what he likes to use.The problems raised by this set of things are more troublesome.

For example, houses and land, from different perspectives, it is easy to deduce that when land has no investment attributes, if merchants do not love land but have a strange habit of collecting land and houses, then they will not hoard land and houses.

So the way to put an end to land mergers is to let the land lose its property of asset investment and financial management, and then it will lead to some terrible ownership problems... This set of things is too subversive, it is best not to use it, it is more radical than their school's idea of ​​​​purchasing official land many.

After laughing, Meng Songlu said: "Brother Lu An was convinced by this heresy?"

Quan Zhe said helplessly: "I have to accept it. The 10 people in Shanghai do not grow food, but they are not hungry either. The rice that comes from Nanyang continuously, and those who cultivate rice plantations, do not love rice. Attributes, and hoard them out of love, just like a person who loves gold and stones collects Wenwan."

"You have to believe what you see."

"That's why Xing Guogong said, let me travel all over the world, go to Nanyang, and only arrive at Gaolang Port to see what Songsu looks like."

"In the mountains, you can't see the mountains."

Meng Songlu smiled and said: "Westerners worship gods and believe in gods, so Xingguo Gong said that they worship money as their god, or worship commodities as their god."

"I blame God for my lack of words. Although the theory of love and use is heresy, when you look closely, it is also the same as what Xing Guogong said about worshiping money and commodities, and what money and commodities are. They are use and love. Pretty much the same."

"I don't love rice, but I love money, because money gives people an illusion, as if gold and silver can be naturally exchanged for any commodity from the day they are born."

"Actually, the Celestial Dynasty used silver as currency, but only for more than [-] years. Now it seems that it has been like this since the beginning of Pangu. No wonder people are fascinated and can't put it down."

Speaking of this, Meng Songlu had to express his own opinion. Although this opinion is not very logical, it can be regarded as a piece of advice to Quan Zheshen.

"Brother Lu'an, when the previous dynasty was in decline, many sages and scholars opposed silver as currency. I know that Lingshi's study was actually against silver as currency."

"Actually, the school of thought, before this, also had a lot of opinions on the matter of silver as currency."

"However, there are some things...Westerners love gold and silver, Nanyang people love gold and silver, and Dongying people also love gold and silver...I'm afraid that gold and silver are used as coins, or the circulation of money is unavoidable."

"The ancients said that there is a way in heaven and earth. If water is taken down, kites are taken up. If you go against it, you may not succeed."

"At this point, it seems that the Songsu revolution, silver is the currency, as long as it is controlled properly, it will not be a big problem."

"Since it is inevitable, why not follow it and learn how to control it instead of choosing to go backwards?"

"Grand Xingguo asked you to go to Nanyang and Ceylon to see the whole picture of Songsu from a distance. He also said that the rice is different from other things. I think it is a good intention."

"Indeed, people who are full do not love rice. If someone loves rice itself, it is indeed a quirk, not an ordinary person, as Duke Xing Guo said."

"People may love gold and silver. I know that North Korea does not produce gold and silver. But, Songsu, does it produce gold and silver?"

"I think, the solution given by Duke Xingguo must be to develop industry and commerce, right?"

The logic of Meng Songlu's words is actually a bit problematic.Westerners, Nanyang people, even Fusang people and Dongying people all use gold and silver, and it is not possible to draw the conclusion that gold and silver are definitely right for currency.

What he talked about was just superficiality, and with his own superficial understanding, he persuaded Quan Zheshen to give up the extremely retro and conservative idea of ​​abolishing currency.

After all, many great Confucian scholars and thinkers in the era of the fall of the Ming Dynasty and the prosperity of the Ming Dynasty proposed the idea of ​​abolishing gold and silver coins, re-imposing taxes in kind, and changing their true colors in the face of the chaos in the late Ming Dynasty.

Meng Songlu experienced it, experienced Songsu's reforms, and witnessed the fundamental concerns of those former Confucians being resolved by Liu Yu little by little.

So he thinks, maybe, it is right that currency replaces physical transactions.

And he just simply felt that North Korea had no gold and silver and didn't understand currency, so why didn't they just use Dashun's currency?

Since it is unavoidable, why bother with it?

In the end, he said that Songsu does not produce gold and silver, but this does not prevent Songsu from being able to buy things from the north and south of the world.

Therefore, since Liu Yu told him that grain can be used as a commodity, he obviously guessed that Liu Yu was advocating industrial and commercial development and exchange in Quan Zhe.

Songsu has already experienced it, and it has been carried out in the most radical way of completely canceling grain rice and switching to currency tax.

Those who have experienced all this can roughly guess what is behind the talk about food.

Quan Zhe only said: "Brother Meng guessed right. However, Duke Xingguo didn't elaborate."

"He said, I don't understand Songsu now, so it's useless to talk about it. Let me travel to Nanyang and other places to understand Songsu, commodities, trade, food, money... What do these things mean? Only then can we explain clearly what to do with North Korea’s policy of enriching the people.”

"But listening to the Duke, he doesn't seem to agree too much with the statement that Juntian is the most benevolent government in the world. Instead, he made a metaphor, saying that Juntian is more like a bridge, and the most benevolent government in the world is on the other side of the bridge. The river is a weak river, if you fall, you will die, and there will be no bones left."

"If you want to practice the most benevolent government in the world, you must cross this bridge. Juntian is just this bridge, but not the other side of the bridge."

Quan Zheshen was naturally extremely confused about this metaphor.

But Meng Songlu laughed when he heard it: "Actually, this is the biggest difference between our school and Duke Xingguo."

"Mr. Shu Gu said: It is impossible to accommodate people who have no land in the world for scholars, businessmen, and workers. Therefore, it is necessary to optimize the method of equalizing and granting land."

"Mr. Xingguo has always felt that being a scholar, a businessman, and a worker can accommodate people who have no land in the world. It's just like Jiangsu's reform, which hurts the people too much, so the transition is to use land equalization."

"He practiced the method of equalizing the land and granting land in Funing, and also made loans for young crops, but he did not prohibit mergers."

"But whether he is right or not, I don't think so."

"If oxen are plowed and horses are used, columbine carts and grain machines are used, and dragon carts are used to irrigate, the limit of a small farmer is [-] mu."

"A family of five is one household, and there are 12 billion mu of land in the world. If you divide it, there are only 5000 to [-] million people in the world who are farmers."

"If you think about it, how is it possible that industry and commerce can accommodate [-] million people? This is absolutely impossible, so Duke Xingguo must be wrong."

"Even if the real learning has developed rapidly over the years, and there are indeed many miraculous skills, it is impossible to do what Xing Guogong said."

"However, it is not bad to develop industry and commerce. However, Juntian is still the most benevolent government in the world. This end point and the other side are by no means the bridge of weak waters that Duke Xinguo said."

Speaking of this, Meng Songlu still had something in his mind, but he didn't say it.

I thought about how many people were forced to go to Kanto and Nanyang to reclaim the land there after the reform of Songsu in these years.There is no such place in your country of Korea. If you follow the strategy of Jiangsu, I am afraid that there will be chaos.

Xing Guogong is not easy to kill, because he can coerce the people to move far north and south.If you copy it, and you have no strength to move, let alone a place to move, wouldn’t it mean that blood would flow like a river?
What's more, even if there is capital willing to hire them, they will be forced to hire people from Henan and Shandong by means of Xingguogong. How can capital be allowed to hire you?

I'm afraid it's difficult.

(End of this chapter)